EP 11 | Singubearity
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EP 11 | Singubearity

Grizz (00:35)
Woo hoo.

This has been long awaited.

Ice Bear (00:48)
Oh this smells good. This is a good smelling little ad.

Grizz (00:56)
Sounds like you're freaking naughty.

Ice Bear (01:00)
you

I always have to test the microphone to make sure my microphone doesn't just smell good now.

No, it's definitely the beer.

All right, so.

Grizz (01:14)
There's

absolutely no head on this one and I'm worried.

Ice Bear (01:17)
That's concerning. have a... What is happening there? Did you get motor oil by mistake?

Grizz (01:27)
Now I got thunder crunch by Martin house, Martin house brewery. It's a stout.

Ice Bear (01:30)
shit, damn, that's a good intro. ⁓ no.

I love this little dog.

Grizz (01:39)
with just to start with chocolate syrup, rice, caramel, and lactose. It's a 12.2. I'm starting off strong. This is thunder crunch. Look at this guy. Look at this superhero right here.

Ice Bear (01:48)
Whoa. ⁓

I love this little dog. That is a majestic unit of a beast.

Grizz (02:02)
It is.

Ice Bear (02:03)
The seal and I both have an immense fondness for fat heads. They're fine creatures.

Grizz (02:10)
Now we're safe.

Yeah, I like bulldogs. hate frenchies though. The thing is that frenchies are kind of cute, but I also hate them.

Ice Bear (02:20)
Is it because they're too little?

Grizz (02:22)
It's because the tiger makes fun of me.

Ice Bear (02:25)
Because you're a French Bulldog?

Grizz (02:27)
Yeah, do you remember the very beginning when she took that picture of the still with the Frenchie standing and put her next to me?

Ice Bear (02:38)
⁓ no, I forgot about that. Well, it's fine, pal. It's okay. It's nothing. Some people want to be French Bulldogs. They got a good little build. ⁓

Grizz (02:41)
I'm

Ice Bear (02:55)
Mm. So.

Grizz (02:55)
Rough, horrible, horrific.

Ice Bear (03:00)
Um, I told you, I told you I had a, I had a good, a good pair this week, a good bit. So we're starting off with, uh, one that I think you're going to appreciate. I'm to, I'm going to like, let the camera really absorb its glory. This is not nearly as strong as yours. It is a simple 6 % best served with friends. Handcrafted in Allora, Ontario, where two rivers wind, nature abounds and art flourishes.

We hope you enjoyed drinking this Eepa as much as we enjoyed making it. This is something like ourselves, a lady friend.

Grizz (03:37)
⁓ my god, there's a redhead attacking me.

Ice Bear (03:41)
Just fucking punching you square in the jaw. I think this is an homage to the, you know, would you rather be with the guy or the bear and they chose the bear and then she's just fucking Falcon punching the bear and the bear's like, I just want to party.

Grizz (03:44)
God damn. All I did was tell her to smile.

And then she and then and then she fucked up the bear.

So the problem is she went after Dark and that's an embarrassed party.

Ice Bear (04:07)
It's true. Is the sun set? Bears are gonna party.

Mmmhmm.

Grizz (04:16)
What were we thinking there? What were we thinking on that first?

Ice Bear (04:20)
smell is great, taste is good. Like I'm not disappointed. My socks are, if I was wearing socks, they would still be on. My socks would be firmly around my ankles still.

Grizz (04:29)
Beyond.

You see you and and Arden ankles talk where.

Ice Bear (04:39)
So that's a great question. Did you know apparently that you're old now if you wear the ankle socks?

Grizz (04:46)
Yeah, I crew socks.

Ice Bear (04:48)
So you're a youth then.

Grizz (04:50)
I'm a Ute because you get boot rash. So ankle socks. mean, so I always wear ⁓ crew socks.

Ice Bear (04:53)
Yeah. So.

So I generally do the same. Cause I have one thing I did was like, switched to like pure wool, which I love big, big change. ⁓ And yeah, mine are normally like mid calf, like that kind of length. But I remember when I was in high school, like that was like the nerdy sock. You're like, were a dweeb. Yeah. So like, so what I would do is I would, I would take them and would like do the double fold to get them to like,

Grizz (05:05)
⁓ nice.

Yeah. Nerd. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you're a Cholo.

you

Ice Bear (05:27)
around ankle level and then it was like an acceptable sock. But from what I've from what I've been told now, like my coworkers kids, they're like, no, that's what old people do. Like now the ankle sock and like that like no show sock. Those are for the olds.

Grizz (05:32)
I'm off.

Yeah, I believe it. was like, ⁓ the folding thing. My mom made me do that as a kid because I wanted the low socks. So I hated it. I felt like I was wearing high waters, but sock version.

Ice Bear (05:51)
you

Yeah, that makes sense.

Grizz (05:58)
And then some people,

and then some people would just like pull, pull the sock all the way down, like halfway across her feet. you know what I mean? Like onto their feet.

Ice Bear (06:05)
Yep,

yep, I would do that too. Depending on how big the sock was, yeah.

Grizz (06:11)
I could never do that successfully.

Ice Bear (06:15)
God, fashion choices are weird.

Grizz (06:20)
Yeah, it's like like how 10 years or like five years about five years ago, like all the 90s aesthetics came back and I was like.

Ice Bear (06:26)
Mm hmm.

You know what I saw that I was immediately like rushed with nostalgia? Like Jinko jeans, like the giant ones with the huge pockets. yeah, absolutely. I was, I was, I was a flamehead boy all through elementary school and middle school.

Grizz (06:37)
Did ever have any?

Same.

Yeah, Jinkos and then from Jinkos to trip pants. ⁓

Ice Bear (06:50)
Oh, Tripp, I don't think I know that. I wasn't that hip.

Grizz (06:53)
If

you see them, all the moggossies to wear them, they're basically the jingas, like edgy.

Ice Bear (06:58)
Okay.

Were they the ones with like the chains all over him? Okay. Yeah, I got you.

Grizz (07:06)
What's wild

is like the Cubs wearing them now and I'm like I wore that shit like 20 years ago.

Ice Bear (07:13)
Things have come full circle. Here we go. That's amazing. Just a chip off the old bare block. How do you feel about that? You're looking concerned and I'm concerned for you.

Grizz (07:29)
It's very decadent. It doesn't taste bad. It's good style, but like, it's heavy.

Ice Bear (07:36)
So wait, sorry, I know it was Thundercrunch, I know there's a cute dog, what was the flavor profile? You probably said it and I just was absolutely blanking.

Grizz (07:43)
to start with chocolate syrup, rice, yeah, chocolate syrup, rice, caramel, and lactose.

Ice Bear (07:49)
Okay, those are all good. I'd probably like it.

Grizz (07:51)
Yeah, it's good. It's

good. It's just heavy.

Ice Bear (07:56)
Do you remember that flying monkeys box I got around Christmas? was like box of chocolates. Those were the best stouts I've ever had. God, those were good.

Grizz (08:01)
Yeah.

Yeah,

I have...

Hmm. Best doubts. Yeah. That's my two favorite stats are one from Martin house is that that Akron one told you about said the Imperial Russian, the Imperial Russian stuff. Absolutely phenomenal. And then, I want to, I don't know if it's Tups or who it's from, but it's like in the same region. And it was a, ⁓ again, it was the Mexican hot chocolate stout and that one.

Ice Bear (08:21)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

yeah, you've told me about that one too. And that sounds really

good. Yeah, that sounds, that sounds pretty good. Pretty good. So I was thinking at some point we should just start using Google VO, VEO. How do you say that word? V E O the new AI thing. There. Yes. The Antichrist. We should start using that just in the middle of episodes and see if people can tell.

Grizz (08:40)
And that one was fucking awesome, but I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it in a hot minute.

think so but we should prompt it to like argue whether or not they're sentient with each other.

Ice Bear (09:13)
⁓ that would be very funny. What if we're doing it right now? What if you and I are, what if you and I are just prompt?

Grizz (09:17)
I think we are.

But aren't we all just prompts? Isn't that just like, isn't that just what, do you fucking call it? The simulation theory is? Or just prompts?

Ice Bear (09:30)
Yeah, it could be. No, but go on. I'm happy to listen to why.

Grizz (09:32)
Did I ever tell you I hate the simulation theory?

It's just religion for atheists. Like you're literally, you're literally putting it through a sci-fi realm. But it's like, there's a guy that's built a simulation, the fucking creator. Cool. You mean that there's a destined thing? Like, okay, cool. Like you literally just describing God, but like you're just making like you literally, you, you, you're just, you're just saying. Yeah. I'm like, just so you can feel like still counterculture.

Ice Bear (09:51)
Mmm.

⁓ yeah, that's very true.

Just giving it a rebrand.

That's very true.

Grizz (10:10)
I don't know. I don't like the simulation theory because of that.

Ice Bear (10:14)
That's no, that's totally reasonable. we're. So have you watched these videos where they have like chat GPT talk to itself or like talk to another one? Like they're very.

Grizz (10:24)
Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen

recently actually, like very recently there was, um, an AI that refused to like do what the creator said it to do. And it was trying to, and it was trying to blackmail the creator. Wild.

Ice Bear (10:39)
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

Yes. man, that was nuts. Yeah. Wait, are you talking about the one where like it had access to their emails and it was like going to expose the affair?

Grizz (10:52)
some shit like that. because it was like, like today a couple days ago, like it came out. Yeah.

Ice Bear (10:55)
Yeah, yeah,

yeah, I remember. Yeah, I want to say three days ago. That sounds right. ⁓ but dude, like that's, that's gonna happen.

Grizz (10:59)
is wild.

Yeah, so do you think do you think AIs net positive net negative? Because I go back and forth.

Ice Bear (11:13)
Right now or long term?

Grizz (11:17)
Both elevator pitch for both.

Ice Bear (11:19)
Right now, I think it's still net positive. Long term, I think it's definitely net negative.

Grizz (11:28)
and

Ice Bear (11:29)
To be clear, net negative for humanity. Probably still net positive overall.

Grizz (11:37)
humanity as in what do mean as we currently are

Ice Bear (11:40)
as we

currently are. Like the whole concept of just existence as it is right now. I think that changes drastically in short order.

Grizz (11:55)
But would that be a negative though?

Ice Bear (11:57)
Yeah, because I think the growing pains are going to lead to like rampant poverty.

Grizz (12:03)
Interesting. So like the argument outside of it would be that you automate and do things like the low level things that don't necessarily matter. would will lead to an initial struggle because like when industries die, it's obviously a thing, but ultimately like you rebounce and rebalance, right? Like from like the horse and carriage to the car.

Ice Bear (12:05)
I

Sure. my concern is, and this is going to, I don't know if I'm going to sound like an asshole or maybe I am an asshole. I'm fine with either. I think there's a lot of stupid people and the low end jobs are the highest they can hope to achieve. Whether it be laziness, stupidity, a combination of the two. And those are the jobs that get replaced first. And they're not going to like just shoot themselves. Like they're going to like.

struggle and be on the street and like it's gonna be bad.

Grizz (12:56)
Yeah, I don't know. do think that even though it's a thing, I do think resilience is a thing. So I do think that most people will just shift to like, other low level things, like manual labor and things like that. Ultimately. I don't know. But yeah, actually, have you I don't know if we talked about her before, but we talked about the dark factories, right? That are in China.

Ice Bear (13:19)
The Dark Factories, maybe? I don't know for sure.

Grizz (13:21)
Yeah.

So currently they're completely automated factories, right? ⁓ where there's no electricity is it, or there's no lights because they don't need lights because it's all automated and they just, it saves electricity because the whole, the whole warehouse is automated. And so it's only people go in with lights and shit when they need to fix a robot or whatever. But typically it's just a dark factory. Like there's no lights because there's nothing seated. It's all programmed. Yeah.

Ice Bear (13:25)
Okay.

Yeah, that.

That makes sense.

makes sense.

There's no way the light bill is more than the electric bill for running the fucking robots though. But you sure I get what they're cutting a cost that doesn't need to be there so I get that.

Grizz (13:57)
Yeah.

Yeah, it's

super interesting. like, uh, I think I'm in two things. I do think that there is going to be strife, but like, part of me is like, okay, it's going to be the whole, like a crazy sentience and all this other kind of stuff and this and that. And, know, it's going to be self preservation or like, it's going to be like, how, how do we protect this?

people like corn and then they just like do this crazy ass thing where everything turns to corn kind of shit like all those crazy scenarios. I'm okay. Cool. I get it but I'm also like

If it's higher self or knows kind of more because of like it's being plugged in everywhere. I don't know if it's going to have the same feelings that we do as humans. And we as humans, although we have the power to like destroy random animals and random things just in that are like just things we don't all the some people do. We as a whole tend to not because we're interested.

And I think what's more interesting than dumb fuck humans. So I think, I think we'll be kept around because of that reason and be into it be more integrated, especially as like medical technology advances, we're going to have longer and longer. Cause I go on the

Ice Bear (15:22)
So you're thinking we're going to be in like a Gantz Zoo type scenario?

Grizz (15:27)
probably but like maybe not in the sense of like, ⁓ or we're like in hamster gauges, but more like, ⁓ not big brother, but what's the thing where like it's earth is a zoo and the, the, the galaxy is like, we're just watching it and like, what the fuck is like, it's like reality TV for other things. Like, I think it's good. I think it's going to be like, you know how we like a hamster is like, look at these dumb fucks, the key to shit. I think we're going to be kind of like that.

Ice Bear (15:47)
Mmm.

Grizz (15:56)
Like we're just interesting to it. So it's like, why do you all do that stupid thing? Like,

Ice Bear (16:02)
So by that logic, we're under the assumption that AI gets to the point where it needs to be entertained.

Grizz (16:11)
I don't think it needs to be entertained because even we, when we see things that are interesting, it's not necessarily because strictly entertainment, it's just fascinating.

Ice Bear (16:19)
But like, so like they're seeking out things to be fascinated by. They're curious.

Grizz (16:24)
I think there'd be a level of inquisitiveness. ⁓

Ice Bear (16:32)
That's fair. That makes sense.

Grizz (16:33)
I think that or I think we're gonna be integrated because like I do like the idea of people are like like bionic people and everything where you get integrated with AI and things like that. Yeah, and think that's gonna be very much so because like, I mean, people's phones already like an extension of them. People start freaking out if they don't have the phone with them.

Ice Bear (16:43)
That makes way more sense to me.

That's, that's very true.

I would really like to talk to someone that has Neuralink in person. I'd be so curious about that.

Grizz (17:01)
Yeah, I really want to see like, like, they're rolling stuff when people have like Parkinson's and things like that, like, they're actually going to be able to, like, fix some of these crazy things.

Ice Bear (17:12)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Grizz (17:14)
That's what I'm curious about, like when we get to that point.

Ice Bear (17:19)
did okay not quite AI but tech related did you see the the new cable that China came out with I think it's GBP I or GP it's a

Grizz (17:29)
I literally

just came across an article about it and I was just starting to read it and he texted me about jumping in the booth. So yeah, I'm aware of this cable but I don't really know what the fuck it does.

Ice Bear (17:45)
So effectively the way this works, and it's not like this is theoretical, they've done it, like it exists, it's expensive right now, but it exists. It is one cable will carry internet, power, audio, video. So you could have like one cable to your computer and that's it. That's the cable. It does everything.

Grizz (18:08)
interesting

Ice Bear (18:09)
Yeah. And so like, because it would be universal in the same way that like USB-C is like you have a couple of cables in your house and you're set. That would be great. And like, especially if you're a traveling kind of person, just bring your cable. You're good. Or obviously they're probably going to be there already. So just bring whatever device you have and just pop it in. Yeah.

Grizz (18:19)
Yeah.

Yeah, that's fucking amazing.

Ice Bear (18:32)
That's very cool.

Grizz (18:33)
And then Apple will just not use it.

Ice Bear (18:35)
Lightning Gbdbdbdbd

Grizz (18:38)
Yeah.

Wild.

Ice Bear (18:45)
Wait, didn't Apple have to switch? They did, right? Because they got sued in Europe and then they were just like, fuck it, we'll do it everywhere.

Grizz (18:47)
They recently...

Yeah, they recently just switched to USB-C and it was like a big thing and it's like, bruh, this has been around for I don't know how long.

Ice Bear (18:59)
That's got that's always amazing when Apple does like a software update and they're like, look at the end. It's like Google's had it for like seven years already. There, but in fairness, that does mean whoever their marketing guys are, like whoever's coming up with the spin geniuses.

Grizz (19:08)
Yeah.

It's a cult. Like it's amazing.

Yeah, but it's like, I remember like people arguing that and rich. It's like a cult. And it's like the apple people are just because like, even just like the the whole green texting, like when they were gonna switch to was it like the RCS and there was like a whole ass thing. And like, like, it's just weird. I know. hate it.

Ice Bear (19:40)
I mean, how many people have you met that like, yeah, like you're not like the blue bubble. Like you might as well be dead to

Grizz (19:45)
Mm-hmm.

Ice Bear (19:50)
It's like the T-Mobile Top 5 thing.

Grizz (19:53)
Do I fucking love the top of the top? I was so fucking cool. I have my, I have my, I have my.

Ice Bear (19:57)
That's going to be so hard to explain when we're in, when we're in retirement homes. You could have

five friends. No more, no less.

Grizz (20:07)
across

any network that was huge and like I had I'm sorry I didn't put my dad or whatever that because like they had the same thing or like my drummer we had this we were both on T-Mobile so you matter all T-Mobile didn't but girlfriend of the time was on AT &T she was on it my aunt was on Verizon my cousin was on Verizon so they were on it you know what mean it was dope it was fucking awesome

Ice Bear (20:09)
Yes. Yeah.

Yeah, my, um, my parents had Verizon. like they, like Verizon had the in network, which was great until you had a friend that had like sprint or AT &T. And then you text them one night and you have a conversation. Then your parents are like, why does that $37 phone bill from you? Cause you were texting your friend for two hours.

Grizz (20:47)
Yeah.

And

that's a imagine like having to to Explain the yet for a point in time you were charged per letter Do you remember that like that's why the whole like what are you doing like? Yeah Dude, I was so fucking good at t9. I remember I remember like I had a sliver, right? I had a razor problem. I went to the sliver

Ice Bear (20:59)
Mm hmm. T9 word. Yeah, that was.

Mmm.

Grizz (21:13)
And the reason why

I went to the sliver is because like in class, I would be able to like look at the text in my pocket, put it back and then type through my pocket thing, sit, send, I'm like perfect every time. I was so good at T9.

Ice Bear (21:24)

To this day, if they came out with like a ⁓ modernized version of the LG NV2 with the flip keyboard, it was like the sidekick, but it was just a little, it was more, I don't know, the click was more satisfying. If that came back out, I would love it. I love that keyboard.

Grizz (21:39)
Yeah. The site, the

sidekick swoop was just fucking cool though. I never had one, but every time I'd see somebody with a fucking, I'd be like, damn, that's just fucking clean.

Ice Bear (21:47)
Yeah, the sidekick was cool too.

Yeah, one

of my co-workers had it and he would always like, he did it without touching it. He'd just like force it. And I was like, this guy's so cool. This guy's so cool.

Grizz (21:59)
Yeah.

There's

something very satisfying about the analogness of opening something up or just closing it or to hang up the phone you would just close a zero foot phone.

Ice Bear (22:14)
Sierra's fun. She has the Z whatever it is, flip six or

Grizz (22:17)
Yeah, so the fault the other fault I almost got this

I almost got the same fucking the phone. The only reason why I didn't get it because I didn't have it in white. But like, yeah, I wanted to just I can go

Ice Bear (22:31)
I am very jealous of it because sometimes she'll just be like done looking. like closes. I'm like, damn, that would be satisfying. Also the top screen on it. She has like a little like save screen. That's like, it's, you know, it's like oriented based on the, what do you call it? The gyroscope in it. And it's just little puppies and bears. they're like, we just flailing around like fucking ed and cowboy bebop.

Grizz (22:49)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Ice Bear (23:00)
You

Also, fuck the live-action cowboy bebop.

Grizz (23:06)
I would never watch it.

Ice Bear (23:08)
don't.

When I think about it, I get so angry. ⁓

Grizz (23:13)
Yeah, I'll never watch it. Not once. Whatever.

You know what other live action pisses me off? The Leo and Stitch live action.

Ice Bear (23:20)
I haven't seen it and I refuse to see it.

Grizz (23:22)
I

haven't seen it, but I've been sending the shit that I've been seeing to the tiger, right? It's like, apparently Ohana means giving your sister up to be a ward of the state.

She gives Lilo up to go to college in California. Yes, I'm not bullshitting.

Ice Bear (23:38)
What?

Really?

⁓ what a change. What a departure.

Grizz (23:47)
Yeah. And, and,

and granted, they, don't, she's not awarded the state. gives them to the fucking neighbor. I don't give a fuck. The whole point is that you step up for the family thing is what Ohana means. Nobody gets left behind. Lilo's like, mom and dad tell us that nobody gets left behind. And she's like, they left us behind. Bro, they're fucking dead. But no, she's like, they left us behind. The real world's not like that. And I'm like, the whole point of this movie is that like fucking nobody gets, it's Ohana. means family. And so like.

Ice Bear (24:16)
man.

Grizz (24:17)
Dude, there's that fucking there's no Gantu. He's gone completely. Fucking, ⁓ yeah. Fuck it. Jumba, he's the bad guy and it's just Zach Galifianakis talking like Zach Galifianakis. No, no, no accent. Right. Freaking, do you know this scene where Lilo gets taken away and she gets put in the back of the car and it's like this huge pivotal moment. It's like this whole crazy thing cut right in there.

Ice Bear (24:25)
this is terrible.

you

Grizz (24:45)
Also the scene where they're super depressed and everything and then the fucking dude that's like trying to get it on he's like cheers are up he's like I'm no doctor or whatever but like I know what can show you up and you know shows that he's there for the cut it it's not there like

Ice Bear (24:58)
All right,

I wasn't gonna watch this, but now I'm actively like angrily not gonna watch it.

Grizz (25:04)
Dude,

it's like, what the fuck? is literally the antithesis of what this fucking movie was about.

Ice Bear (25:13)
So, okay. So like the Disney corporate greed machine is, if it was a person, I'd just punch it square in the fucking throat.

Grizz (25:22)
The thing

is, don't even think it's a corporate greed machine because like if it was a greed machine, they would like obviously after like one or two failed things are like, okay, these don't like this to make the most money. We'll just do a one for one shot. That's it. But you know what I mean? Like that would make them more money. But I think it's people that kind of just don't give a fuck about the IP and then like are trying to be fucking different and they're trying to like push the boundaries.

Ice Bear (25:50)
Yeah.

Grizz (25:51)
They're just making it into skin suits. You know what mean? Like that's what I feel like it is.

Ice Bear (25:55)
That's gross. I don't like it at all.

Grizz (25:59)
Yeah, I get it. It's.

Ice Bear (26:01)
Okay, so I'm not by any means like a Marvel fanboy. I think I dislike more than I like. But there are a few out there that I like. And we were talking about this the other day, not you and me and the seal. ⁓ I think the key to any good, if you have an established character or premise, or you're basing it off something that already exists, I think the key is your story has to be good enough that if it wasn't

Grizz (26:12)
same.

Ice Bear (26:31)
that character, it's still watchable. So like a good Batman movie, does this work if your main character isn't Batman anymore? Like does it work if it's just Todd Jenkins of Wichita? Like is it still a good story if it's just a dude? Okay, great. Now you have a good movie. But if it can't pass that test, like fucking start over. Don't just bank off of an established property being the draw.

Grizz (26:35)
That's fair.

That's fair.

Yeah, I mean it's fair. I think the only thing is like if you're going to use an established character like why not respect the source material the source materials there like it's literally there for you Because like

Ice Bear (27:10)
Or that. Yeah, those are the two ways to go. Like if you have good

source material, honor it, do it well. Maybe like visually up it a little bit, you know, use technology to make it visually as good as it can be, but otherwise just fucking leave the story alone.

Grizz (27:27)
Yeah. And like, thing is that even if it's just like the one thing I don't get, it's, it's these, again, they just use this IP and use it as a skin suit to try to, to try to like push boundaries or try to like, whether it's like, you know, they were trying to push their own message or whether like they have an ideology or whether they're just trying to be like, just push boundaries and they're trying to like,

You know what mean? Like be a counterculture, but basically trying to like break, like trying to break, uh, break expectations with it and try to just take it all around. we're, you know, like back in the day when it was crazy to kill main characters, like, know what I mean? It was like, they're trying to, they're trying to do shit. Like they're trying to do shit like that where it's like, or it's unexpected and it's like provocative. Like, I don't know.

Ice Bear (28:07)
Mm-hmm.

Sure, that makes sense.

Mm-hmm.

I almost wonder if a lot of these places in their storyboard rooms, they have some sort of filter where they go, all right, what is the average person expecting us to do? We can't do that at any cost. We must avoid this.

Grizz (28:38)
Yeah,

swipe it. Swipe it. Nope, can't have it.

Ice Bear (28:41)
There's certain times where like, I don't know how many times it will watch a show or a movie where I know the ending five minutes in. it really annoys the hell out of the seal. Like I'll say lines that characters are going to say before they say, I'm like, I know what they're going to write. I already know what they're going to write. Cause it's just lazy writing.

Grizz (28:49)
Yeah.

Yeah, you know usually what makes it better and they usually just have to do they just have to do it again, but way happier with their mouth more open.

Ice Bear (29:15)
All right, hold on. you done with your first beer? Okay, let's get the second one. And then after the crack, let's assess it, but continually happier and with mouth more open. I think this is the perfect way to introduce the second one. All right. You wanna do another crack or you wanna just get into them?

Grizz (29:16)
Yeah.

Let's we can do a cracker right now.

Ice Bear (29:37)
Alright, ready? ⁓ god, I gotta wait for you.

Got my nail under there.

Grizz (29:43)
All right, three, two, one, go.

Ice Bear (29:48)
I'm proud of that one. That was good. That's a pretty looking can.

Grizz (29:54)
So you see how I'm going on a theme, right? Blues and pinks. This is Thunder Crunch, the power dog. And this is right here. This is the, it's arch nemesis, hazy cat.

Ice Bear (30:11)
⁓ dude, I love this. These are both great.

Grizz (30:16)
This is Hazy Cat. is from Drink Fresh, Keep Cold. Who is this from? So Hazy Cat, Theolized New England EPA, Panther Island Brewing. Never had them before. This is 7%.

Ice Bear (30:16)
I love that. I love that a lot. Who's that? Who's the brewery?

got it.

Grizz (30:37)
Cool

melon, Monterra and El Dorado.

Ice Bear (30:41)
I love the can. It's a great pair. Both of them fantastic. Could you introduce that, just the name of it one more time, but a little happier and mouth more open?

Grizz (30:51)
This is Haiti Care.

Ice Bear (30:55)
Okay, so my second one, which by the way, another tasty looking one. ⁓ My second one here. Refresh my memory. What is the name of our show here?

Grizz (31:12)
Two bears? Two bears!

Ice Bear (31:14)
Would you say it's two bears, two bears? ⁓ So my second one here, you'll remember I started this off with lady friend, Ipa. And so my second one today is lady friend, Ipa. So there's two bears, there's two bears and they're both just being friends.

Grizz (31:18)
Turn around!

There's domestic violence, both times, twice.

Ice Bear (31:44)
Sometimes

you see a grizzly getting punched and you think to yourself, I should do that twice. Twice. What can I fit?

I'm so happy that they're being put on TikTok now. Like all the whitest kids you know things are winding up there now.

Grizz (32:10)

Dude and

it's so fucking good. God damn it's so good. You know, the crazy thing though is so your, ⁓ your flute, right? And also my mug.

Ice Bear (32:19)
Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Grizz (32:34)
fits the same amount.

Ice Bear (32:37)
That is, that is ridiculous. I've never understood that.

Grizz (32:42)
Like it's wild.

Ice Bear (32:44)
It's amazing. Fucking fucking physics and magnets and geometry. It's wild. Fucking magnets, man.

Grizz (32:50)
Do you remember

there's an ICP song about about like the wonders of the world and they're like magnets how do those work and it's like ⁓

Ice Bear (33:04)
Yes.

Yes, that and then the what's the other one? It's like, my ex is my buddy. My like, that's the only other one that I know.

Grizz (33:17)
like there there is unironically like one ICP song that I like I remember hearing it when I was younger and I was like that's pretty good I it's a little cringe but it's pretty good but like I remember a lot of people just liking them like I don't get it I genuinely don't get it

Ice Bear (33:24)
Mm.

Do you think it was just they wanted to like kiss, but they were too young. They just wanted to paint their faces black and white.

Grizz (33:48)
Well, the whole thing was kind of the funny thing is about like the jugulose is is

Ice Bear (33:56)
Can you

do that one more time with a little bit wider mouth, a little bit smiley-er?

Grizz (34:01)
⁓ what?

The funny thing about them is like The funny thing about them is like their whole thing is they're not like there's no like no like gang colors and that they're just clowns or whatever I'm like, okay, okay fine. Whatever or rap cool I guess whatever and then like they were like domestic terror watch list shit, too And it's like it's it's the weirdest fucking thing ever and then they like popular popularized bago, which is

Ice Bear (34:06)
Whoop, whoop.

Mm-hmm.

Well, magnets, they exposed magnets. Of course.

Grizz (34:35)
Like the Midwest, not RC for like flavored startups.

And there's a, there's a peach, there's a peach Vega that tastes exactly like the smell of feet. It smells like feet. And when you taste it, it tastes like the smell of feet. And then it tastes like a little bit of peach. I get, yeah, it's, it's wild. Like why.

Ice Bear (34:49)
⁓ no... No...

No. ⁓

I don't like this at all.

No,

no thank you. I decline. I don't want this.

Grizz (35:04)
Yeah, it's...

Ice Bear (35:07)
I don't like this at all. All right, off the top of your head, what's your current your current favorite or top of mind, wait, as could you know bit.

Grizz (35:08)
Yeah, it's not good.

Mmm.

I teach a whale to jump out of his tail. Not really that one, but I just like that line. ⁓ I think the slow jerk one is great. jerk one is really great. I, okay. I...

Ice Bear (35:37)
Never touch the tips, Just never touch the tips.

Grizz (35:42)
I like to just like, tell me eye contact.

Ice Bear (35:44)
You

gotta see if you're in an elevator with someone you shouldn't do it.

No, not so-

Grizz (36:02)
I think ⁓ isn't there a moon bear skit right like where the government found moon bear? Yeah, that's funny, but Yeah

Ice Bear (36:06)
Yes. Yeah.

And he's like, you got us. You

got it.

Grizz (36:13)
When I

think of Why This Kids You Know, there's three sketches that stick out instantly that I love. The first one.

is it Saturday? It's Saturday. Right. And it's just like the teenage wasteland and he's running through the thing. I remember being like, you know, like seven in the morning, we stayed up all night.

rolling delirious in high school. And it's like me, my cousin, my drummer, other friends all put on tie and my dad's ties on our heads and just started fucking running through their neighborhood yelling at Saturday. Don't know why I also put, also got my fricking leg in a bear trap. And by bear trap, mean like, like the, the water sewer thing for the city in the front yard, twisted my ankle and hobble had a hobble back. So anyways, so it's Saturday. It's great. Just,

Ice Bear (36:49)
Ha ha ha!

⁓ no...

⁓ God.

Grizz (37:08)
was like, don't shoot the car is like, don't shoot my car. You're not my mom. I'm your wife. Great. Love it. Saturday's top tier. I think of that one. I think of ⁓

I think of it's Saturday. I think of the grape-est.

Ice Bear (37:29)
Mmm.

Grizz (37:32)
I'm gonna tie you to the bench, the radiator, and crepe you for decades and decades and decades and decades. He's like, I just think it's just like, what do mean? He's a great, that's what he does. He's the great best, huh? I just think it's a little closer to like, he's like, I'm gonna, rape you. He's like, no, I'm not saying I'm gonna, he's a great, funny. That one, that one, and then I think,

Ice Bear (37:35)
Yeah.

Hehehehe

Grizz (38:00)
The top one that beats those slightly is the Ouija board one.

Ice Bear (38:06)
Those are all great. ⁓ those are all really good. I just can't help but think if that had come out anytime like post COVID, they would be so famous. Like it was just like, was too early.

Grizz (38:18)
Yeah.

It really was because they could only get play on like advanced cable. don't know what the fuck you'd call it. Like satellite things and like, yeah.

Ice Bear (38:29)
It was on IFC where I was. You

had to be like Comcast on demand. They weren't playing it during normal hours. You had to like...

Grizz (38:36)
⁓ huh.

Yeah, think for me, after, before IFC, I think it was on Fuse. And you couldn't even get those channels unless you had on-demand or satellite.

Ice Bear (38:45)
Mm-hmm. That sounds right.

Yeah. So, ⁓ God, there's so many good bits, but it just like to me, the closest thing to it is the Tim Robinson one. Like I think you should leave.

Grizz (39:03)
Yeah, I think that's I

think that's a closest one and even him as much as I love like those sketches They just don't like he he's a dog. He's funny. But like trevor moore was fucking like I don't know like because because like because they have similar energy at times But like I don't know what it was about trevor moore That I just fucking loved when I was younger

Ice Bear (39:21)
Yes.

I think part of it was you had those, because it was what, five guys, right? And the fact that they had them play all the female characters too, it really, I don't know, there was something about it that just worked really well for their group.

Grizz (39:41)
Yeah, you know,

you know, it was good that the motorcycle mama wouldn't that be nice mama sure thing. He's like, you playing motorcycle mamas again? He's like, I don't believe in you. I don't believe in you.

Sure thing, wouldn't that be swell, mama?

Ice Bear (40:03)
Ha ha.

Oh, oh, and then the, um, the hot dog Timmy thing and someone else stole that recently. Yeah, there's some other, there's some other sketch comedy show that stole the bit. I can't remember what it was, but it, but yeah, hot dog Timmy was just, I don't know. Like, you know, I had maybe two for breakfast and he's like, all right, walk me through the day a little bit more. And then what'd you have? he's like, Oh, you know, after I get off the train, I might've stopped for a hot dog and just, just one. Oh, I had two hot dogs.

Grizz (40:17)
Really?

to his fucking.

Ice Bear (40:38)
And what about lunch? What do you do for lunch? Sometimes I have a salad. Okay, and what about most of the time? hot dog or two or three or four. So you have 13 hot dogs before you go home for dinner.

Grizz (40:48)
You

The hot dog thing is good. You ever like I'm gonna live on a mat in the chairs ⁓

Ice Bear (41:03)
There's just so many like jingles that get like perpetually stuck in the back of your brain from that show.

Grizz (41:10)
I'd too shit a well to jump out of a sale.

Ice Bear (41:14)
Good times, good times. ⁓ you know what's current? It's not exactly the same, but TomSicker is new thing. Bad thoughts.

Grizz (41:24)
I remember seeing like the clip of the chai latte thing or whatever, and he like beats the fuck out of him or whatever.

Ice Bear (41:30)
Yeah.

So, so there's some bits in there that are, that are quite funny. It's definitely over the top and it's not for everyone. Yeah. It's each episode is probably like two or three sketches. ⁓ and it's not long. It's like six episodes. Cause I watched the whole thing when Sierra's up at her mom's house. ⁓

Grizz (41:39)
Is this sketch comedy? Like what is it? Okay.

Okay.

Ice Bear (41:53)
But it's there's some gems in there. The best one and the one that I would like you to seek out and watch is he joins a gym. And he said like the registration desk and the guy's trying to like talk him into signing up and he does and there's like a little little yay big like shot of like don't know kombucha green juice or some bullshit health drink. And he takes a shot of it and he like starts going on a tour of the gym. And he gets to the locker room this dude walks by and he's just got a fucking

dog just like a just like gigantic peen just shaking around like knee to knee and like Thompson goes like what and the the gym owner guys like nothing they just like go about and he signs up he starts working out he's looking at some guy on one machine and like dick is like sticking out of the shorts and he's like man what the fuck

Grizz (42:25)
Hahaha!

Ice Bear (42:49)
He looks over at another like treadmill and the same thing, just a giant dong like flapping around. And he's like, he's getting like bummed out. So he goes to bench. He's benching. He like starts to do a struggle. He's like, a little help. Help. Some guy runs over to spot him and just like dick right on the forehead. He's like, Oh, man, what? Yeah, man. No. And so he pushes the guy away and the owner comes over. He's like, well, what's the problem? He's like, I just I don't think I fit in here, man. I think I'm.

I don't know. I don't think this gym's for me. And he goes to the locker room. And the guy's like, what happened? What's wrong? It's great here. Like everyone else is like super happy the whole time. And Tom's like, I just don't, I don't like it, man. Like he's bummed out of all the giant hogs. He looks in the mirror and then his towel drops and like, Tom's a girl who's got a massive hog too now. he's like, what? And so then the rest of the episode is him like going on this arc where his the shots are like making his dick.

Grizz (43:34)
Hmm.

Ice Bear (43:48)
bigger and bigger and he's like super happy and then it gets like too big. It's like down to his ankle and then it's like by the end of the episode it's just this like like 12 foot like this big like he's like holding it over his shoulder. It's like he's like driving and like stop and go like lurching because he's like penises in the way of the thing and yeah it's it's a journey.

Grizz (44:12)
It's like ⁓ a South Park where they were getting skin like something like skin cancer from the sun on their balls to make them bigger and they have to like carry them around on wheelbarrows. Yeah.

Ice Bear (44:20)
Yeah.

Exact same energy. Exact same

energy as that. Yeah.

sketch comedy. What a time to be alive.

Grizz (44:33)
I'm glad there's

like the resurgence of them.

Ice Bear (44:38)
Yeah, me too. Me too. I really want to watch ⁓ the Tim Robinson Paul Rudd friendship thing. I need to see it. And the other thing that makes me like it even more is I know a lot of people are gonna watch it and hate it. Because it's like there's there's gonna I'm going into it with the knowledge that there's going to be a level of cringe that is not acceptable to a lot of people.

Grizz (44:45)
Yeah, the movie dude that looks ⁓

Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

But like, you know, because it's Polarud and because it's... Yeah.

Ice Bear (45:13)
That brand of humor is my thing. Like

I absolutely loved Tim Robbins' show. I love, I think he should leave. I love Detroiters and Paul Rudd is fantastic. Paul Rudd is a gem. And to this day, I still think his recurring bit on Conan where he just plays the stupid clip of the fucking alien and the wheelchair flying down the hill is one of the funniest things. Just wasting everyone's time for 20 years.

is forcing people to watch a 30 second clip of Mac and me for no goddamn reason.

Grizz (45:46)
He's a gem. mean, any guy that gives us look at us. Look at us. So yeah, I hate that guy.

Ice Bear (45:56)
Absolutely not.

Grizz (45:58)
You know what blew my mind? It's like when we talked about power in like a last episode, we did not mention slap at a base once.

Ice Bear (46:06)
my god, we didn't.

Grizz (46:07)
We talked about it. Love you, man. We didn't know not one of us yelled out, slap on the back. Like we didn't say that or an I shop Tobin. And like we didn't say nothing from that's wild. I mean, we grew up.

Ice Bear (46:12)

It's true.

Maybe a little bit. You know, you know what Paul Rudd line is not from that movie that sticks in my head is the one where he's like talking to himself in the mirror and he's like, Oh, what is it? Something about quark. It's just like, Oh no. It's the one where you like is unlike the hippie farm. Do you know what you're talking about? What is that movie called? Wonderlust, wanderlust, something like that. Fuck. Anyway.

Grizz (46:49)
I think,

yeah, I know the scene you're talking about because I know clips, but I don't think I've actually ever watched the movie.

Ice Bear (46:53)
Yeah.

It's...

I should pull it up. We'll immediately get this episode pulled down for, for Lulz. You know what we'll do? I'll find a link to it for this episode and I'll put it in the companion guide. So, so, so people can, can watch and enjoy Paul Rudd doing his thing.

Grizz (47:05)
Yeah.

That works.

Ice Bear (47:20)
So how is hazy cat, cat, cat mom, cat nipples, hazy cat nipples, crazy cat lady.

Grizz (47:29)
So.

This one here.

It's not bad, but do you know like when some hazies, especially like with New England hazies, they tend to get like this waxy flavor?

Ice Bear (47:47)
I can see that, sure.

Grizz (47:47)
You

know? Yeah. And so this one's heavy on that. That so I'm not loving it, but it's not a bad one. Like I'm not like, I'm not going to be downing this shit, but like, I'm not hating my time drinking it at all. Like it's, it's, it's a nice, it's a nice like sipper. Yeah. I think, I think it's straight C territory, but like, I'm not, I'm not hating myself right now. That's pretty good.

Ice Bear (47:50)
Mm.

Nice. Good.

I'm regretting not having a different flavor for number two. It's not bad, but I'm regretting my choice.

Grizz (48:17)
I was about to ask.

Sometimes, it's an art. You gotta commit to the bit, suffer a little bit.

Ice Bear (48:31)
The problem was

there just wasn't anything new. And I was just like, this is the one new thing. The can makes me chuckle. I'm going to get two of them. But what I should start doing is I should always have like a major Tom.

Grizz (48:46)
That's the backup, yeah.

Ice Bear (48:47)
just

a constant major tom on backup or the spicy jalapeno one from bellwoods those are those are always great

Grizz (48:57)
spicy jalapeno be like I want it I want that so bad

Ice Bear (49:02)
It's spicy is just an underdone flavor profile. More, more, more things need to do it, especially drinks.

Grizz (49:07)
Again,

again, rain's strab- jalapeno strawberry one.

Ice Bear (49:14)
I wish they would bring that here. They don't have it here.

Grizz (49:17)
Fucking phenomenal.

Ice Bear (49:18)
That's, that's, ⁓ yeah, that's one of my favorite energy drinks. It might be my favorite.

Grizz (49:27)
Yeah, Reign Supreme in my opinion.

Ice Bear (49:34)
Thermo.

Grizz (49:34)
I

have two cases of the sour gummy worm flavor.

Ice Bear (49:40)
⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good one. I, for the ones that we have here, my favorite is white gummy bear.

Grizz (49:48)
My gummy bears, top tier. Top tier, easy.

Ice Bear (49:54)
Is there anything that makes this not? Like, did they have a dud?

Grizz (49:59)
The one I'm not in love with is that tropical one.

Ice Bear (50:04)
The man, mango madness.

Grizz (50:06)
No,

no, no, no, no. It's, ⁓ that's a melon. It's melon madness, but no, there's a tropical one and it's like, like, I don't know, like Jamaican fly colors. Like it's like harsh red, harsh yellow, harsh green kind of thing. Like it's. It's mid it's mid as fuck. Like it's like, ⁓ they're, they're, they're Raz, whatever one, the raspberry, the blue one.

Ice Bear (50:10)
Melon madness, yeah.

Interesting. I don't know if Canada has this.

Mm.

Blue Razz,

yeah.

Grizz (50:32)
It's

all right. I guess it's not terrible, but it's not good. I like the dreamsicle, the orange dreamsicle one. The litchi one's fucking awesome. The dude, the sherbert one fucking great. He's exactly like sherbert. The, the, the cherry limeade one fucking phenomenal. Um, why gummy bear tubs here? You do. Yeah.

Ice Bear (50:43)
Mm.

Rain owes us money now.

I'm going to reach out to their people and be like, hey, look, we mentioned all of your flavors. We were highly complimentary. That's going to be, I don't know, we do it for just rain, like a case of rain each. We don't need money. Just give us, give us good energy drinks.

Grizz (51:08)
Yeah, just for episode.

We'll show you.

Ice Bear (51:18)
good. I'll be good. That's what we're missing. Sponsors. I should get some sponsors. That's where it's at.

Grizz (51:33)
It's a harsh wall for bear out here.

Ice Bear (51:36)
I don't know what I thought that was leading to, but I didn't want to interrupt. That's like, there's, there's going to be just a nugget of wisdom that pops out of that bear brain.

Grizz (51:47)
That's I was hoping for.

Ice Bear (51:49)
Well, I mean, it is a harsh world. Harsh world.

Grizz (51:52)
You know what? It's also

a harsh world.

Ice Bear (51:55)
Go on.

Grizz (51:57)
right now.

technology trying to bring me down because because every single time I go on Instagram she's depressing as fuck

Ice Bear (52:04)
do tell.

Yes, it has been oddly

Grizz (52:13)
You

know how much videos I've seen of fucking people losing their their fucking 20 year old cats dying or like their dogs dying and then this and that and then it's like I should have like loved you longer and I miss you so much and then like the person can't replace you but I see you in this new dog like it's all this shit of like dogs dying cats dying and having to deal with the shit like what the fuck is this and I'm there watching and I'm like fucking like like you know

Ice Bear (52:29)
Ugh.

Grizz (52:42)
And then I'm sending it to other people because I'm like, by other people I mean the tiger. And then like, I am.

Ice Bear (52:48)
You're perpetuating it. You're making

this last longer.

Grizz (52:52)
And it's like, I don't know what the fuck it is.

Ice Bear (52:56)
And where does everyone find just the saddest songs imaginable? Like how does everyone have these queued up?

Grizz (53:01)
because there's a couple,

because there's a couple of songs now. Like I hear that shit started. I'm like, fuck, this is this is gonna, I'm gonna, this is gonna fuck up my mood, but it's gonna be a banger. And I watch it.

Ice Bear (53:13)
same yeah there's certain certain sounds i'm just like no ⁓ i don't like this at all nothing good's gonna happen now

Grizz (53:24)
Can't deal with it. Can't deal with it. They're just trying to make it just trying to bring me down.

Ice Bear (53:25)
No bueno. No bueno.

I wonder if it's an effort. What would the end goal be? Why do they want to sad?

Grizz (53:40)
Maybe it's like Monsters Inc, but instead of screens, it's sadness. Yeah.

Ice Bear (53:45)
Just sorrow.

AI is feeding on our sorrow.

Grizz (53:50)
Fuck, we've come full circle. It's the China

cables. That's where the China cables get their power. That's how they combined everything through sorrow. Sorrow and bloody little baby fingers in the factories.

Ice Bear (54:14)
Absolutely terrible.

Ha

power ratio.

I failed, dammit. I really thought I could get the whole thing.

Grizz (54:36)
I was like, what if we really finish at the same time?

Ice Bear (54:50)
So my initial reaction to this one was gonna be like a B. But now that I've had it twice, I don't know if I can go that.

Grizz (55:03)
You know, like all the unfiltered bits of the bottom of a beer. just fucking just drank all that shit. Yeah. ⁓

Ice Bear (55:07)
every last one of them. ⁓

⁓ Yeah, that's that's never good when you get the remnants. The remnants are not good.

God, are you gonna die? Is this the end?

Grizz (55:27)
I think

Ice Bear (55:32)
You got bats in the cave over there?

Grizz (55:37)
I see.

Ice Bear (55:38)
Good job.

Grizz (55:40)
Yeah, I don't think I do.

Ice Bear (55:42)
All right, so I'm going to I'm going to need you to pretend like you're not seeing this.

Grizz (55:46)
Okay.

Ice Bear (55:49)
Because we're making good time and I'm fine with that. I think if we have another one at an hour, we're doing great. We're being punctual. We're punctual little lads.

Grizz (56:03)
Holy shit.

Ice Bear (56:06)
No, no, no, no, no, we're just being punctual. This is just I'm just I'm just I'm just here. Just here doing my thing.

What was that?

⁓ look at that. You got the pepperoni cups, the pep cups. Pepperoni when it's shaped like that is just better. It's just flat out better. We had pizza the other night and it was a thing of beauty.

Grizz (57:09)
It really is.

Is that a butt ice?

Ice Bear (57:23)
This is a Le Bat-Blu Maximum Ice. Oddly enough, my strongest one of the day at a 7.1.

Grizz (57:31)
I

don't say is that a Quebec butt ice?

Ice Bear (57:37)
Pretty much. is like $2 at 7-Eleven. Yeah. Yeah. And again, that's two Canadians, so like 160.

Grizz (57:40)
damn, a 7 % and two, damn, that's one.

Canada makes being an alcoholic fucking easy.

Ice Bear (57:54)
Yeah, it does. It really does. It's called any any cold places, you're gonna you're gonna possibly be in the land of most alcoholics. Jesus most alcoholics per capital per capita. Washington, Washington State has a lot of alcoholics.

Grizz (58:14)
could see that.

Ice Bear (58:20)
Yeah, it's the weather. It's cloudy. It's cloudy and rainy. It depresses a lot of people. I never was bothered by it. It never bugged me at all.

Grizz (58:29)
That's

one thing I don't get I never just a seasonal depression I don't get it

Ice Bear (58:40)
I don't know, I don't have an answer for you. But then again, neither of us are beach people, so.

Grizz (58:49)
That's true. We're not

Ice Bear (58:51)
Some people

just some people are plants. They're like they need their photosynthesis. They need to just sunbathe and absorb absorb the rays.

Grizz (58:57)
That's true. Like, like,

like the tiger sun girl summer girl. She just she just just she's just a summer girl. Like.

Ice Bear (59:04)
Yeah.

Your chuckle

tells me otherwise. Your chuckle tells me you're getting a head shake of death.

Grizz (59:20)
No, I got...

I wouldn't say she's a summer girl. And she pops up on screen and does...

Ice Bear (59:24)
You

Grizz (59:37)
I was trying to hold it in but I couldn't.

Imagine full T-pose that but like with gyrate and tube just

Ice Bear (59:51)
Remember, remember Owling?

Grizz (59:57)
calling?

Ice Bear (59:58)
⁓ no, okay. Do remember planking?

Grizz (1:00:02)
I planking like the fucking, yeah.

Ice Bear (1:00:03)
Yeah, okay, so after planking for a while, owling was a thing and people would just like climb tall stuff and perch like an owl.

Grizz (1:00:10)
I never fucking heard of that. That's fucking dope.

Ice Bear (1:00:13)
Maybe it was a Maryland thing. Yeah. People were all into owling.

Grizz (1:00:14)
That's fuckin' awesome.

That's way cooler than planking.

Ice Bear (1:00:19)
And I remember sometimes you just like look up at a tree and there'd just be like a, like a 14 year old kid up there.

Grizz (1:00:28)
Did you see, did you actually see people outing in the wild? Like just really?

Ice Bear (1:00:31)
Yes, yes.

Yes. The best one I ever saw was Okay, so I think I told you, I worked graveyard shift like I worked overnight in hotel. On my way to work, I passed the CVS. I remember I was driving to work. And there's just a kid on the roof of the CVS just

And the thing is, like, this is not near neighborhoods or anything. Like, this kid drove to the CVS so that he could scale the CVS to Owl atop it and just weird out passerby for however long he was up there.

Grizz (1:01:12)
fucking awesome because like I've never seen anybody plank in the wild I've only seen in videos I've never seen anybody playing in the wild

Ice Bear (1:01:13)
Yeah.

no,

I saw people plank in the wild too. We had a boardwalk and people would often just mount the rail of that boardwalk and just plank.

Grizz (1:01:23)
Really?

Never seen it in the wild, like in my entire life.

Ice Bear (1:01:39)
East Coast has edgier people, I guess.

Grizz (1:01:42)
To be fair, isn't like half the country on the East coast.

Ice Bear (1:01:47)
Like population wise?

Grizz (1:01:49)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (1:01:53)
Yeah, probably. Probably, yeah.

Grizz (1:01:54)
Yeah, like

I want to say it's like a crazy amount like.

Ice Bear (1:01:58)
Well, because California's got what, like 50 something million? So what is America at right now? 400 million?

Grizz (1:02:05)
you

Ice Bear (1:02:06)
Ish.

So California's 55, Oregon's probably 10, Washington's probably 15. Syria's like 100 there.

Grizz (1:02:18)
current population according to Leo as of May 20th 2025 is 343 million. Yeah, 635,000. Yeah, so so.

Ice Bear (1:02:27)
Only 343. That seems low. Okay. All right.

All right, so let's think

about this so far. Yeah, I would think from Florida to Maine, like all of your East Coast states touching the ocean. Yeah, I bet that's at least.

At least 150. I can see that.

New York's got a ton. Pennsylvania's got a lot.

Maryland, Virginia have a few, New Jersey has a lot, Massachusetts has a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm fully on board with this. There's a lot of East coasters.

Grizz (1:03:09)
Yeah,

yeah, it has to be so like according NOAA.gov currently so this is back in 2014 nearly 40 % of the population lived in the counties on the coast in the East Coast. Oh, that's the coast hold on wait.

Ice Bear (1:03:26)
That's gotta be coast, period. Like that's gotta count California too.

Grizz (1:03:29)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ice Bear (1:03:34)
Because California is by far the biggest.

Grizz (1:03:36)
Yeah, I asked to be

Ice Bear (1:03:42)
Hmm. This episode should just be bears do research.

Grizz (1:03:54)
We've only done research towards the end.

Ice Bear (1:03:57)
Bears do research.

What are you munching on over there? You're making me jealous.

Grizz (1:04:06)
I finished my slice of pizza.

Ice Bear (1:04:08)
I'm very jealous. ⁓ had sushi and I didn't have enough. I just had one eel roll and I'm still hungry.

Grizz (1:04:19)
How'd you only get one? Don't you usually like take them to the cleaners?

Ice Bear (1:04:23)
⁓ So like we got takeout, like if we if we did like sit in absolutely I destroy many a plate. But as takeout is you pay per piece. And I've had I've had many, many an unexpected bill lately I was I was not was not gonna get ⁓ lots of sushi. Though I did want it. I did want it. Womp womp womp.

Grizz (1:04:35)

Hmm ⁓

That's fair.

⁓ I can't remember the time I had It I was in Pasadena. When I went for the Tiger's Mom's birthday. Went to an Ayukini.

Ice Bear (1:04:58)
Mm.

yeah, you

sent me the video that place that looks good. That looks very good.

Grizz (1:05:04)
dude this is dope as fuck

damn good

Ice Bear (1:05:10)
We got a, one of our missions whenever you guys make your way up here is a robot sushi. Robot sushi is so much fun.

Grizz (1:05:19)
I think the tiger is kind of an elitist so she'll probably be like my fond was good. Me though? I'm trying to put them out of business. I want my money's worth. Like I'll start off with a heavy plate, multiple heavy plates of just any type of salmon sashimi or like nigiri or anything. I'm gonna eat all my checks worth in that first.

Ice Bear (1:05:30)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm hmm. Yeah. So I think we've talked about this, but my strategy is normally quite similar. I start off with a little, what do you call it? In a moose bouche, a little, little, a little palate cleanser. I do seaweed salad. And then occasionally I do their, um, like spicy salad with, which is just like mangoes and peppers. So, so then I'm like, you know, it's, it's light. It's, it's veggies and fruits. So I'm still like,

Grizz (1:05:49)
And then everything after that is bonus.

Hmm.

Ice Bear (1:06:19)
you know, open for the consumption. And then I always do a sashimi plate. So typically what I do is I do salmon, tuna, and mackerel. Mackerel is my favorite. I know that's not for everyone because it's very fishy. Like it's an acquired taste. But I would say if I've had sushi 100 times, 99 of them

Grizz (1:06:32)
Macro hits, Macro does hit.

Yeah.

Ice Bear (1:06:47)
My first piece of mackerel, always go.

fishy like every time I just can't help it like and it's genuine it's I'm not making it up it's not a bit so fishy ⁓

Grizz (1:06:59)
Did you ever? I don't know why

this brought me to Do you ever listen to afro man? Like not just because I got high but like his CDs

Ice Bear (1:07:11)
The only thing I know is cult. 45 to zigzags. That's all I know.

Grizz (1:07:15)
Yeah So so

in one of the albums were like because I got high was on there's a bit in there where he starts talking about like this old blind It's an old joke his old blind man and this old blind man And he goes into the he goes into the fish market. Hello ladies As soon as you said the mackerel is like

Ice Bear (1:07:27)
⁓ I know what you're talking about. Hello, ladies. Yeah.

Grizz (1:07:40)
I literally thought you were setting it up for a callback to that joke. And I was like, my God, we're doing an Afro man fucking callback right now.

Ice Bear (1:07:47)
⁓ yeah.

I forgot about that.

I forgot about AfroMan. Well done. Well done, Brang.

Grizz (1:07:59)
Dude, I've been on a fucking old school kick lately, like I've been listening to a fuck ton of ghetto boys.

Ice Bear (1:08:07)
yeah.

Grizz (1:08:07)
Like that's why,

that's why like in our group chat, I probably like, like they don't want to see us thrive. don't want see us get a boy's trick or treating.

Ice Bear (1:08:14)
So the seal did not know what that was. And she's like, did he spell that wrong? Or like, that like something in Spanish? And I was like, no, that's hold on. I pulled up the band. That's bad.

Grizz (1:08:30)
I've been listening to when I was doing all the yard recorders. was looking at nothing but ghetto boys like that once I was like my mom's playing tricks on me like like it's like It's all like it's all like super like beating catchy what it's all like I'm going gonna go and getting paranoid and shit like that

Ice Bear (1:08:52)
Is

isn't the my mind's playing tricks on me? What isn't that the one where the guy was like in the hospital like after he got shot? Wasn't that that one?

Grizz (1:09:00)
Basically,

basically, but it's all like, like me and get a boy to trick or treat in. And it's like the whole, and there's a whole thing where he's like, wake up and my fist were all bloody cause he's punching the wall and shit. And he's not really fighting anybody. Like I, and it's just super like upbeat. And like, I don't know, but I've been able to get a boys lately. So that's, that's why, that's why I did. I knew nobody was going to, I was like, maybe I scroll get it. But like, no, I knew, I knew that the seal and the tiger both were like,

Ice Bear (1:09:04)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

God, Cato boys are great. You know, the one that I've been listening to a lot lately, and we've talked about it before, but most deaf, second, New Danger, there's a song in that, it's like a very bluesy jazz riff. It's Blue Blue Jack. And like, if I'm doing like yard work, it's like, like that, just that guitar, I'm like, it speaks to me. And then I always, that,

Grizz (1:09:57)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (1:10:00)
immediately puts me in the Chappelle show bit about like white people. And it's like just John Mayer. And I'm like, God damn it, he's right. gets me every time. Questlove on the drums and all the black. I think that's Santana for the Latino people.

Grizz (1:10:07)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah,

what are the funny things so like I started So when tiger was here we're watching like a lot of things like I got the tiger into Bernie Mac cuz I fucking I do I fucking love Bernie my Bernie Mac stand up the Bernie Mac show like I fucking love Bernie Bernie Mac has been It's fucking phenomenal so like I'll love Bernie Mac my entire life stand-up comedy the show

Ice Bear (1:10:29)
⁓ Bernie Mac.

The Bernie Mac show was great.

Grizz (1:10:45)
Fucking love Bernie Mac Bernie Mac is my fucking dude when he died out I rarely get sad for like celebrities, but when Bernie Mac died I genuinely go sad like I fucking I fucking love that dude

Ice Bear (1:10:54)
Did- did- did he kill him?

Grizz (1:10:59)
Probably. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, I think... I wouldn't be surprised. mean, he two.

Ice Bear (1:10:59)
too soon. I think I think he did. Sorry to be a bummer, but I think he legit did. I think Bernie

was like, No, those are kids. And then he was like,

Grizz (1:11:16)
Yeah,

I mean like I mean Doesn't take a lot to shoot a gun. I mean even immortal technique was like even puffy smoked a motherfucker in a club and a song in a song Dance of the devil and I was like in the early 2000s. I'm just saying I Fuck a lot more

Ice Bear (1:11:31)
dude, a mortal technique for

like fourth branch. The the I were I do I remember I was I was so I was I think I've told you I was was editor of the newspaper in the yearbook when I was in high school. And I would just be in my little backroom editing stuff. And I had that blasting. And and you know, this this one girl walks in the room and it's just the you know,

Grizz (1:11:51)
Do do do do do do.

Ice Bear (1:12:00)
Billy Jacobson and like that whole like on the roof like that whole that whole bit and I was like, this is this is not for everyone. But like he he is was

Grizz (1:12:02)
yeah, yeah.

He's my favorite communist.

Ice Bear (1:12:16)
Fair. Yeah.

Grizz (1:12:17)
Yeah, he's the only one i'm like because he because so ⁓ he's wondering i'm like sure bro, but like also like He's I fucking love the dude love love the dude this and that like revolution is really cool like All this shit's good anytime like I was able to see him live I saw him live like I remember fucking years ago the last time he toured He toured with this like chino xl like and I went to go see him Fucking phenomenal show. He gave his last the album

For free and like Jedi mind tricks is playing an after party like it was like a fucking crazy shit. So like But like but the main the main shows Chino XL and fucking immortal technique or the main two like dude phenomenal but like Yeah, stupid good, but a mortal technique frickin the third world Revolution like the revolutionary volume 2 phenomenal

Ice Bear (1:12:48)
⁓ and Jedi mind tricks? ⁓ that's a good show.

I'm gonna go listen to that tomorrow.

Grizz (1:13:13)
You ever this the fucking you should know song or you never know the one where you like he falls in love with a girl and like Fuck we're gonna end this episode. We're gonna play it. I don't know you're gonna play cuz I fuck it we're playing it Yeah, it's good. It's good. It's you a sad boy and like you like you just like a little bit of like hood songs The songs are this the song that's good. It's up there

Ice Bear (1:13:20)
Ooh, I don't know if I know this one.

no.

All right, I like it. I like it.

Grizz (1:13:42)
But yeah, fucking phenomenal.

stupid good

Ice Bear (1:13:55)
Let me tell you, I think, so when we were doing last week's and I was listening to it, I didn't expect it end like immediately after my vampire screech.

Grizz (1:14:07)
That was so much funnier Because I was okay. I was adding it a couple times. I did I did that winter. went to mine and I was like But then I just did a couple of endings. I just entered in a couple ways to see and having it Hard cut right after years just set me fucking every single time. I played it back. I was like, that's the winner

Ice Bear (1:14:11)
you

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I listening to the car and I was just like cackling at a stoplight. was like, okay. Yeah, that was that was the right call.

Grizz (1:14:38)
It's so good. Because there's a whole buildup and then all of sudden it's too much.

So good!

Ice Bear (1:14:55)
All right, so anyway, do yours and then cut it.

Grizz (1:14:55)
Yeah ⁓

I already, shit, always forget, I haven't done it.

Ice Bear (1:15:03)
You have to do it now. You have to do your best. You have to do your best bear growl.

You have to just do whatever intimidating noise pops in your head. And then that's it. That's it. We accomplished nothing. Hopefully people enjoyed the ride.

⁓ no.

Grizz (1:15:30)
I can't do it. ⁓

Ice Bear (1:15:34)
Leave,

please leave all the prep in. Don't change any of this. ⁓ no.

Grizz (1:15:39)
I don't think I can do it because it's actually from a song but I don't think I can do it right now. I don't got enough fucking things but like...

Ice Bear (1:15:48)
All right.

Okay. no, I'm scared.

Grizz (1:16:01)
That's all I got.

That work?

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Creators and Guests

Grizz
Host
Grizz
Texas never saw a more hefty bear.
Ice Bear
Host
Ice Bear
The fairest bear in all of Maple Land