Ice Bear (00:33)
I'm glad we both misfired a little bit there. Because I was like, no, my finger's not, no.
Grizz (00:35)
So
it up perfect. I ended up trying to not do too quickly and I just undershot it. Completely misjudged it. Is that a bang?
Ice Bear (00:50)
It does look like that, doesn't it?
Grizz (00:52)
It looks like the Froze Rose one.
I am very excited about this one and also like I'm not terrified I'm very excited about this one honestly. I got a good thing going on this time too.
Ice Bear (01:03)
Okay.
I too am excited. You want to go first? want me to hit this up?
Grizz (01:11)
you should hit this one I got the other one last time
Ice Bear (01:14)
Alright, so let me tell you. Well, you were enjoying this hazy EPA loaded with smooth citrus notes twigs. The beaver was up to no good. He may look innocent, but don't trust him for a second because once you turn your back, you'll end up just saying, well, you know, this is damn it. no, look at that. There's too much cool hair. he's a beautiful little bear though.
Grizz (01:25)
Dastardly.
I can see that.
That's a beautiful fella, but it's like my old grandpappy always said, you can't trust no beaver.
Ice Bear (01:46)
Is that something grandfather said? That's like, why would that ever come up? What does that mean?
Grizz (01:50)
No, no.
What are we talking about here as far as percentages and all that?
Ice Bear (02:01)
Yeah, so one of the reasons we discussed this a little before the show, but I'll be doing three because this is a hazy light Ipa. It is a 4%, but I just loved the beaver just gnawing on his little light thing. So I wanted to get it.
Grizz (02:17)
sounds good to me. You can't pass a beaver. It's like that Prima song by Big Brown Beaver. So the heavy hitter, the beast from the Fort Weast.
Ice Bear (02:25)
You
Grizz (02:36)
Martin House Brewery. got.
We have right here, it is, I'm like, just half, the original queen was the first barrel-aged fruited sour we ever brewed here at Martin House. This version is unique as it was aged five months in a mix of whiskey barrels and wine barrels. This is Queen of the Mist, a whiskey barrel and wine barrel-aged chokeberry sour.
Ice Bear (03:04)
⁓
Is chokeberry a real thing? I've never heard of that.
Grizz (03:18)
as much conviction as she has, I believe it is. I've never heard about it here.
Ice Bear (03:21)
Interesting.
Grizz (03:25)
but yeah, but it's a barrel and wine barrel age, whiskey and wine barrel aged chokeberry sour. Sounds awesome. It is an 11.7%. It's unblended. And it cost me like eight bucks.
Ice Bear (03:30)
looks cool.
Hmm
Grizz (03:44)
from the heavy.
Ice Bear (03:45)
jeesh.
Grizz (03:49)
But look at this beautiful color.
Ice Bear (03:51)
That is, and I'm looking at a chokeberry now, because I've never heard of this. They look kind of like blueberries. They're apparently found in the Eastern North American wet woods and swamps.
Grizz (04:06)
⁓ so like.
Ice Bear (04:08)
That is a really, it's a very nice color. That's interesting.
I like it.
Grizz (04:13)
It
smells like a Merlot, Or like a Cabernet.
Ice Bear (04:18)
⁓ interesting.
Grizz (04:22)
Yeah, like this color is phenomenal. like, holy shit. I don't want to, I almost don't want to drink it. Like it looks amazing. Yeah.
Ice Bear (04:22)
very interesting.
Just make it a work of art, just frame it.
Grizz (04:33)
I'll just put it in epoxy.
Ice Bear (04:36)
Ha ha ha ha.
Mm-mm-mm. ⁓
Grizz (04:44)
Damn, that's good. ⁓ yeah, that's good.
Ice Bear (04:50)
I'm very happy about this. I mean, I'm not surprised. Like, Martin House doesn't screw things up.
Grizz (04:56)
They had me scared yesterday, yesterday, the last week's episode with the Thunder Crunch. The fact that I had no head on there, was like, I was really worried.
Ice Bear (05:01)
Mm-hmm.
Do you think that just the can was stored improperly or something?
Grizz (05:09)
I'm thinking because I was gonna it's funny enough
I had another one here because I was going to try it again, but I was like, yeah, I'm not, that's not going to be my third. So I put it, I put it to the side.
Ice Bear (05:19)
Ugh, it's
such a good little dog.
Grizz (05:25)
Yeah, I freaking I I do I do love the bullies ⁓
Ice Bear (05:25)
Such a good little pop person.
Mm-mm.
Grizz (05:39)
Fantastic. ⁓ This is sour.
Ice Bear (05:43)
So I would also love it.
Grizz (05:45)
Yeah, it's good. It's damn good. I kind of, I don't know what the chokeberry flavor profile is, but like, it kind of reminds me of, you know, the tartness cranberries have kind of that at the aftertaste. It's good.
Ice Bear (05:46)
Very nice.
Yes.
Interesting. I love when you learn about a fruit that just some part of the world has known about forever.
Especially food, like anytime I hear about a new food where I'm like, how the fuck have I existed? Almost 40 years and I just have never heard of this before.
Grizz (06:14)
this long and then
Yeah, I know there's another fruit that's like really big in like West Virginia and North. It's another berry. And I can't think maybe it's like it's one of those berries that like it's abundant there in the wild, but like it doesn't last long. So you really can't sell it like they fucking rot quick.
Ice Bear (06:28)
boysen boysenberries.
⁓ huh. Interesting. Would you know it if you heard it?
Grizz (06:42)
⁓ I'm gonna
yeah I'm gonna you know pop it if it pops to my head I'll just randomly blurt it out definitely not I forgot
Ice Bear (06:51)
Apricot.
Banana.
Grizz (06:55)
No.
Ice Bear (06:56)
Alright,
I'm going alphabetical, cantaloupe.
Grizz (06:59)
No, it's a berry for sure.
Ice Bear (07:01)
Is it a date? Elderberry.
Grizz (07:03)
No, it's something Not elderberry elderberries
You know what? ⁓ it reminds me of ⁓ loquats
Ice Bear (07:12)
That's a fun word to say. I don't know if I've ever had one for sure.
Grizz (07:15)
So a loquat is like this super soft yellowish to like golden little fruit, like a little plum. Not a kumquat, it's called a loquat. The funny thing is that I, up until I was like 29, 28, out here in South Texas amongst the Latino community,
Ice Bear (07:25)
And this isn't a comquat.
Grizz (07:45)
They're called Chinese plums. And so all I only knew was Chinese plums. I can never ask for the fruit outside of Chinese plum. I don't know what the hell it was. And the only way you could get them, though, was if you had a tree or somebody had a tree. I remember an old church that was ⁓ next door to my great-grandmother's house. They had one. So he would jump the fence when nobody was there and steal all the full bunch of the fruits and jump back over the fence. ⁓
Ice Bear (07:47)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (08:15)
And then my dad had one, my dad had one for the longest time and like we couldn't eat because they grow so much on the trees like we couldn't eat all of them so all like the neighborhood kids when they're walking home from school would climb up on our fence and shit and pick them. And my dad didn't, we didn't care because it's like we take them and just get rotten and fall off. Yeah but they're, yeah but they're phenomenal. But they're called loquats. I had no idea until I had to like describe it to the interwebs and find out that those look like loquat.
Ice Bear (08:27)
Mmm.
Yeah, squirrels are going to get them or something.
fun. I like it.
kind like it took me a long time to learn that. ⁓
God. Now I forgot the English word for it Passion fruit. Because like, like my family, we call them Lily koi. So I just like, man, like, that's not a very common phrase in the East Coast. No one had any idea what I was talking about. And then like, someone's like, passion fruit. Like, that's, that's what I'm talking about. That's, ⁓ okay. Same thing. Different name. Got it.
Grizz (08:59)
yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I forget there's another one. It's like, I don't really I don't know the naming of it. I think I know it as Cherimoya, but like.
Ice Bear (09:31)
yes, that would be the Mongolian banana.
Grizz (09:34)
So, cherimoya is also known as a custard apple.
Ice Bear (09:39)
Custard Apple. That's a fun name. I've never heard of that. I've never heard of either way of that.
Grizz (09:45)
Yeah, so Terra Moja looks like this.
Ice Bear (09:52)
⁓ interesting. It's kind of like a. Those are big seeds. Can you eat the seeds?
Grizz (09:55)
So it's super soft. Yeah, it is.
I've never tried, so I don't think so. Yeah, So it's super soft and mealy on the inside, and it tastes like the milk after you eat a bowl of Fruity Pebbles.
Ice Bear (10:02)
So most people pick them out.
that's interesting. That sounds good.
Grizz (10:15)
yeah I guess
it's really good one goes a long way though it's very super sweet I don't do well with super sweet
Ice Bear (10:25)
I I would describe myself as someone with a sweet tooth, but there is a level where you're just like, this is, this needs to stop.
And it also kind of plays into the thing that we've talked about this many times, both of us like flavors that are like multiple profiles. Like sweets best when it's with spicy or with savory or with sour. I it's always better when you've got a couple things going on.
Grizz (10:46)
Yes, I'll take it.
Speaking of that, I've been trying this new tahini twist. This one is sweet and spicy. It's sweet and spicy. like, yeah, the ingredients, chili pepper, citric acid. Look at that boy. That's a handsome fellow right there.
Ice Bear (10:56)
I should get.
It's the film crew.
Grizz (11:15)
Yeah, and so like it's this one here. It's sweet forward. And then it goes into ⁓ like heat like it was like twice as spicy as the original and like and also has sweetness to it. So it's actually pretty good. Yeah, so it's like sweet, spicy, plus sour. It's actually really fucking good.
Ice Bear (11:27)
⁓ I'm going to have to look for that. That sounds really good.
⁓
that sounds very good.
very tempted to, no, I'm not gonna get it now, but I'm very tempted to go get Taheen.
Grizz (11:47)
you should grab it when you grab your second one.
Ice Bear (11:48)
I should always come prepared
with it. Next time I'll come prepared.
Grizz (11:52)
I mean you should grab it when you grab the other one.
Ice Bear (11:54)
I will. I'm pretty... So my last one, it's not going to work in. My last one I'm actually excited for because I think... I think it's a first. Not just for recorded episodes. I think it's a first period, maybe. Yeah. So I'm excited for the last one. And my next one, I don't think will meet it. I'm actually... The next one I think is a good flavor profile by itself.
Grizz (12:08)
⁓
How
you feeling about the one you got?
Ice Bear (12:19)
I like it. like it. ⁓ I feel like, especially now that it's, we're kind of like into summer here and it's been, mean, comparatively, it's not hot at all. So I sympathize with Texan heat, but ⁓ it's hot for us.
Grizz (12:32)
Hey,
Cali's got to beat Cali until it's like 89 degrees today. Or no, 98 degrees today.
Ice Bear (12:38)
Okay, we're
in like the upper 50s. Okay, I guess it's not that hot. But it's hot for us. Yeah, so anyway, it's for us, it's been warmer. like light beers and things like this that just have like a nice citrusy flavor. They're, they're very good. And this is very easy to drink to obviously, because it's fucking 4%. So you could you could go to town on these, you could have a pitcher while bowling a bowling a frame.
Grizz (12:45)
50 sounds... 50 sounds beautiful.
Yeah, it's basically like that, ⁓ man, tuckie one. like.
Ice Bear (13:11)
Mm-hmm, yeah.
from what you've told me, yes, I believe it's exactly like that. Okay. So I have something I want to pick your brain about. Okay. So you're right now we're talking about this a bit earlier.
All right, so this is not trying to piss off atheists or fundamentalists. We're just playing a hypothetical here. Okay, so I want you to imagine there is a heaven. So some people are obviously sure of this. Some people are on the fence. Some people don't know. Some people, it's obviously not true, but let's say there is one. If there is a heaven, when you get up there, are your loved ones the age that you want them to be?
Grizz (13:33)
⁓ okay.
Ice Bear (13:56)
the age that they died at or the age that they want to be? Or is there some other result?
And are they aware of who chose it? If so, because like, let's say you're in charge, like it's your personal heaven, but they're aware of it. So like you get up there and your grandma's like, why did you make me 85? I was 30 once it was awesome.
Grizz (14:09)
I think.
or
Do you think or what if, what if it's subjective in the sense that to them, they're the 30 year old one, but you perceive them as the 80 year old one.
Ice Bear (14:36)
So
that's exactly what the seal said. So her interpretation was that everyone perceives everyone in the light that was best for them. Which I think is very, very, like that's nice. That would be heavenly. That would be a lovely thing if everyone was just exactly how you remembered them.
Grizz (14:54)
Yeah, I'm going with like, I think that's like the best way, but I'm going with where they died.
Ice Bear (15:02)
That feels like where the cosmic thing would want it to go, right?
Grizz (15:09)
Like to me that to me that makes the most sense
Ice Bear (15:12)
Which would be such a downer if you died in like an accident, you're just like permanently like limbless if you got hit by a truck.
Grizz (15:18)
That's,
I don't know about the state you died, like to say your physical body died, but like, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. But then again, cause like, cause I think of, ⁓ babies. So like in, ⁓ divine comedy, right? ⁓ circle one is purgatory, not purgatory circle one is a limbo.
Ice Bear (15:22)
Just the age. Just the age.
So what about all the babies? So it's just like a bunch of babies.
Grizz (15:44)
And it's with, it's basically all the scholars are there. It's all the people that were born before Christ because they weren't able, they didn't, he didn't die for their sin. So they died with original sin. So they're in limbo. They're not, they're not being tortured. It's, they're just not in heaven, but they're not being tortured either. They're, they're just, you know, they're chilling. Right. And so they're there. It's all them and the unbaptized babies. it? Nah.
Ice Bear (15:44)
Mm-hmm.
Do you think they still pay rent?
Rent Free.
Grizz (16:12)
rent free that they're chilling there's no earthly thing yeah so like they're just chilling so it's basically everybody that died with original sin and so that includes the unbaptized babies and that and that's specifically said in the divine comedy so i'm going to go with that one
Ice Bear (16:13)
That's nice. That's not that bad.
Okay.
I like it.
Grizz (16:34)
but like do you ever cocoa just to do a show
Ice Bear (16:37)
Like the
Pixar DreamWorks thing? I'm aware of it, I've never seen it.
Grizz (16:43)
Fantastic movie like seriously, it's one of the one of the best ones they've made right and then
Ice Bear (16:47)
This is not the one
where they go, we don't talk about Bruno. No, no, no, no.
Grizz (16:52)
No, no,
no, that's the other not Mexican one. Yeah, that's the Encanto. There you go. Right. Yeah. I've never I've never seen that one. Coco's along with the day of the dead stuff and everything. Coco's nuts. It's it's absolutely amazing thing, which is funny enough because like all the characters and it's probably just because of like.
Ice Bear (16:55)
That's something else. Okay. Okay. So not that.
So I would probably like Coco a lot then.
Grizz (17:15)
my background but all the characters a lot of the characters in there remind me of my family members like one of the guys I see my dad in like fucking crazy one of the ones I see my grandmother in like crazy like my great-grandma like there's so many things where it's like it's weird but
in there so like the whole thing like the whole thing with the day of the dead is you lay out the you lay out the offering right you're a phoenda like it's like you have the pictures to offer them you lay out the offerings to them you know similar thing across cultures right you lay out marigold petals to guide their spirits to come back to the altar right so they can have their food and you know in the thing it's basically
once people stop laying like stop putting you putting you up there and they forget about you you you experience a second death and your spirit dies basically right like so your family keeps you alive your family keeps you alive on the spirit side right and so instead movie um you have in there so you have people that have died when they were
adults and so their skeleton version of them is them as adults and so there's a couple in there where they died young and they died when they died and their baby their girl their daughter was still a baby but their daughter lived all the way till she was an old woman
Ice Bear (18:27)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (18:40)
So when she came back to the other side, her skeleton form was her as an old woman. So she looks older than her parents. But her parents see it, they're like, my nina, like, you my little girl, you know what I mean? And they're hugging her, but she looks older than they look because she died when she was older than them. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great fucking movie. Honestly, it's a fantastic movie.
Ice Bear (18:56)
That's very cool. I gotta watch this, this sounds great.
brief sidebar, because I'm in the master of segues. ⁓ Number one was ⁓ B minus. It was good. I enjoyed it. ⁓ If I see light beers now that are on sale like this one was, I'll probably just start picking them up. It's like a little warm up, a little palate cleanser.
Grizz (19:25)
Yeah.
I think that means I gotta keep a case of Mn-Tucky.
Ice Bear (19:32)
little man tucky lying around.
Grizz (19:35)
So I think this one here. ⁓
That's what I hear.
I'm complicated, honestly.
I'm conflicted between this is the best sour ever tasted or right under the Raven sour.
Ice Bear (20:01)
By the way, that is very high praise.
Grizz (20:03)
Yeah, no, like, I knew it as soon as I drank it, but the thing is as a warmer and got, it was still just as good and like,
Ice Bear (20:12)
⁓ that's... I'm very excited for you. That sounds great.
Grizz (20:13)
This.
The floor for this one's an A.
I'm genuinely, I think this is an A+. Yeah, I can't, it's an A+. Yeah, Queen of the Mist.
Ice Bear (20:24)
I think it is. I think it has to be.
If it's there with Raven, boy, it's got to be an A+.
Great job, Martin House. Great job.
Grizz (20:35)
What is she like ⁓ a chokeberry fall pixie or vixen? don't know they call her.
Ice Bear (20:43)
Chokeberry
Pixie.
Grizz (20:46)
She's a, look, she even carried a, yeah, it's a A plus. It's literally one of the best hours I've ever had in my life.
Ice Bear (20:47)
the old.
⁓
That's very nice. All right. Let me tell you this next one here. Speaking of high praise, let me introduce you to...
high grass.
Grizz (21:10)
I'm good.
Ice Bear (21:12)
Now high grass, let the grass grow. When we launched high grass, it became an instant classic in our beer garden. The perfect companion to a sunny day brewed with all natural lemongrass and whole ginger root sliced by hand at Uxbridge. High grass brooms with freshness and palate pleasing flavor. So yeah, I saw lemongrass because that's the word that's like, and then I saw ginger and I was like, so
Grizz (21:32)
Yeah.
Lemongrass
and ginger go together like lamb and tuna fish.
Ice Bear (21:40)
What? No, lamb and tuna fish is perfect. I'm thinking about all the times I've had a nice tuna fish sandwich and thought, lamb, lamb is what's needed here.
Grizz (21:45)
Peanut butter and jelly, think that one better?
Yeah.
You remember the movie Big Daddy?
Ice Bear (21:59)
⁓ no, don't let's, no, why do we always devolve into the Adam Sandler argument? I can't do it. All right, let's go ahead. Tell me about Big Daddy.
Grizz (22:07)
So
in Big Daddy, Rob Schneider plays this foreign delivery guy. It's the whole thing where he's like, he doesn't know how to read, so they're teaching him how to read along with Frankenstein, this little boy, right? And so he's learning all these fucking hard words and then he goes to Rob Schneider and then he goes to like ball, little short words and then finally give him a hard word, his hippopotamus, right? And he's like, Hip hop?
Ice Bear (22:12)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (22:35)
hip-hop anonymous and then he's like damn you give him the easy ones and he like crashes out well anyways movie then goes ⁓ adam sandler fakes being his friend to get custody or to like so the boy doesn't go to become a ward of the state like lilo right and so he he's you know more nonny than anybody else adam sandler here is
Ice Bear (22:36)
⁓
Hahaha
Grizz (23:03)
lies so he can keep him citizen with the state. He pretends to be John Stewart. Well anyways, they find out, they try to take him away, they bond, and he's trying to become this boy's guardian. So during the trial, basically all the people around him come and basically make the case against the state that he's a fit father, this, all this other kind of stuff, like let him keep the boy. And so one of the people that goes on stand is Rob Schneider.
And then he's like, he loves this boy. This all this stuff. They go together like lamb and tuna fish. And everybody's like, what the fuck? And then he's like, what? Lamb and tuna fish? No. He's like, I don't know. A spaghetti, a spaghetti meatball. Does this work better for you? He's like, yeah, because this is America, buddy. Right? Like, it's all, it's the whole thing. It's one of those things that like I saw once when was younger and it just stuck in my head.
Ice Bear (23:46)
Ha ha
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (24:00)
but lemongrass and ginger go together amazingly. Lemongrass is probably my favorite aromatic ever. I fucking love the lemongrass.
Ice Bear (24:08)
Mm Yeah. Yeah, if you ever have like a good like, like a fresh grilled like lemongrass ginger like chicken in like a Vietnamese place like that's a
Grizz (24:19)
yeah, dude.
So like when I was working at the old Hebe when I was young, ⁓ in the deli department they used have a hot bar and they Asian food. Well, the lady cooking the Asian food at my store was like, she was fucking awesome, but she was just this older Vietnamese lady. Like from Vietnam, her daughter brought her over kind of thing.
and she would make this lemongrass chicken that only our location sold because she made it it was the most the best shit i ever had in my life i would get it every day for lunch because it was so fucking good it was just a bowl of white rice and then this like lemongrass chicken i was just chopped up lemongrass like chopped up chicken thigh in this like lemongrass braise sauce thing and it was like that's so fucking good
Ice Bear (24:53)
yeah.
Yeah.
It's amazing
how well that flavor works with just plain white rice though. Like it's it's perfect. Like it's such a good combo.
Grizz (25:14)
Yeah, yeah.
It's all good. God damn. I am not kidding that I remember that from that job and just think about it fondly and like miss that. Because I know it's not there anymore because I doubt she's ever there. But every single time I'm like in San Antonio, I'm just thinking like.
Ice Bear (25:29)
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (25:40)
And she was nice. would always like when she'd come back home, come back from, she would take like a two, three month leave and go back to Vietnam. She'd come back and bring like a bunch of like peppers and stuff like that. And she, and she'd, she'd give them to me during lunch. It was fucking, I miss that. She was, was amazing.
Ice Bear (25:55)
What a nice lady.
What a nice lady.
Grizz (26:02)
So here's the thing.
We happen to have a kind of old, old bear scene going on right now. See, I was thinking of, you know, Woodsy, right? Queen of the mist thing. And I was like, how can I, where can I pair this? I saw this yesterday, last night actually. So I changed my rotation because it was paired with it perfectly. This right here is from a brewery who they have a stout that I absolutely love. It's really cool. They make a black metal stout.
Ice Bear (26:18)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (26:33)
I can't haven't got it here yet. I had it in Austin and San Antonio, but not here. This brewery I believe is from Austin. I've had a couple of duds from here, including one of the worst beers I've ever had. Yeah, it was that that like, that one witch, it was like something which worm, which or worm something, it was a rye that like it was fucking rough. ⁓
Ice Bear (26:57)
Hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (27:02)
This right here is from the brewery Jester King. Jester King Brewery. It really is. I fucking love this art so much. ⁓ I am a sucker for like Renaissance era or like just in that general era of like old English, ⁓ like occult stuff or like when they make like
Ice Bear (27:07)
Good name.
Grizz (27:26)
demons, devils, nymphs, and things like that. I just love the art. This right here is called... This is Jester King Green Acres. ⁓
Ice Bear (27:27)
Yeah, yeah, we both are. Yeah.
⁓
that's very nice.
Grizz (27:40)
And this is Green Acres Hop Fest.
Ice Bear (27:43)
Very creepy.
Grizz (27:44)
This is a hazy double hepa, and I believe it is a, it's an 8%. So this is an 8 % hazy double hepa. Jester King Green Acres. is a double hazy with freestyle super-soven Kohai Nelson. Hand-selected Simcoe mosaic and Haas hypnotropic euphorics. Rooted and canned by Jester King in Austin, Texas.
So it's pretty magical.
Ice Bear (28:14)
Very nice. I'm curious to see how you feel about it. Now.
There we go, I didn't want to interfere with the crack. ⁓ Now I saw on the old interweb that Austin had some bananas hail yesterday that knocked the windows out of the airport. Did that affect the DFW?
Grizz (28:36)
So it didn't affect, we didn't get any hail but towards the middle of the night last night had some fucking wild thunder and lightning and a random storm that lasted like 30 minutes from my area. But it was enough to where like, you know those lightning strikes, thunder where you know it's close because like they happen like almost instantaneously. Yeah, so like I felt like it hit, I felt like the place rumble and you see the crack a lot, you know.
Ice Bear (28:48)
interesting.
⁓
Grizz (29:06)
Yeah, that's all.
Ice Bear (29:07)
we had one. I think I told you about it. We had one maybe two weeks ago. That was
Grizz (29:11)
⁓
hold on.
Ice Bear (29:13)
Holding,
Grizz (29:16)
I gotta mute my phone.
Ice Bear (29:16)
All right. All right. I'm going to entertain the people. All right. What would you all want to hear? Let's discuss. Let's discuss.
perhaps ⁓ overall bear ranking, but just best bears out there.
Black bears. They're fine. Cuddly. Very cute. Wouldn't run away if you saw one in the woods. Why friend shaped? Sun bears. Kind of goofy. I don't know. I don't know if you'd want to play with them. They're a little strange looking. Grizzly bears. Obviously great. Very intimidating. Lots of sports mascots named after them. Polar bears. I'm biased, so I won't.
I won't discuss my own feelings there.
Grizz (30:11)
Absolutely unprofessional. no,
Ice Bear (30:13)
What happened? you or me? Gosh,
what are you doing answering a phone like some kind of animal?
Grizz (30:21)
It was blaring. I don't know if the microphone picked it up, but it was full volume.
Ice Bear (30:25)
I could hear you.
Yeah, it was just yeeting skeet. Great ringtone, by the way.
Grizz (30:34)
four years now. ⁓ Going back before you rudely interrupted so I was talking about the crazy house rumbling lightning fender and you said you had one eyes a long ago.
Ice Bear (30:36)
as you should.
Yes. Yes.
Oh
yeah, yeah, just a couple of weeks ago. it was probably sometimes after I like feed the horses in the morning, I'll come back and like lie down with the dogs, take a little cat nap after I've woken up. And I was in that kind of cat nap phase. So I'm like, you know, I'm asleep, but I'm like, probably at that like high level of like light sleep, where like anything would wake you up. And there was a clap of thunder that the reverb from it like shook the house.
Grizz (30:59)
huh.
Yeah.
Ice Bear (31:18)
Like, that lasted, like, shit you not, like, six seconds. Like, was such a... Yeah, it just kept... And I was like, is this an earthquake? Like, I had enough time to think that. And I was like, no, this is just like a crazy thunder, like, reverb thing. So yeah, that was pretty wild. So, do you guys have a thing that you call a gully washer there?
Grizz (31:21)
⁓ shit
Kala Kala Island?
Ice Bear (31:48)
⁓ Gullah Gullah Island's great. Binya Binya. What a guy. They should make Binya Binya merch. That would sell. Come and let's play together in the bright sunny weather. Let's all go to Gullah Gullah Island. ⁓ But no, so like when I lived in Missouri, like Southern Missouri has lots of hollers. Like if you've ever seen that show Ozark, there's a lot of like weird just
Grizz (31:54)
Like a koi?
Ice Bear (32:16)
drop off clips into like deep ravines. So like, if you live in a holler and they have like a sudden ⁓ flash flood, like the base of it will fill up and there's basically like a mini lake that's not normally there. so.
Grizz (32:17)
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, so I mean I guess
technically we do have that but like not I don't know where it happens enough towards I get there's a name for it
Ice Bear (32:37)
Yeah, so basically that runoff that creates that little thing, they call it a gully washer, because it's washing out the holler, or the gully, or whatever you call it. Hm. What is your most, not invasive, that's the wrong word. What's the most common weather bullshit tornadoes? Is that the thing that freaks people out there?
Grizz (32:44)
I mean that makes sense, yeah.
⁓
Yeah, I guess I think tornadoes is the only thing really I mean we do have flooding but like I think and Tornadoes and flooding are like I would say probably the most common because they We get the warnings for them, I guess, you know, but like they're not in like
Ice Bear (33:19)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (33:23)
every month thing there may be like a one like tornadoes are probably every couple a couple times a year like there's a warning you know like um i say that but also there's been a couple in the last two years probably been like three that touched down or in this general area right i would say tornadoes is number one i don't know flooding's probably number one flooding's number one can happen the most often and then but tornadoes is what people really forget about
Ice Bear (33:25)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Okay.
Grizz (33:51)
and then Delasca, I guess is the third, which for us is like your weekend, you know?
Ice Bear (33:56)
Alaska
Yeah, no, that was
a that was very cute. I enjoyed that because what did you guys get like six inches?
Grizz (34:05)
⁓ The biggest thing is just like it's just a lack of infrastructure, you know, so like
Ice Bear (34:11)
Sure, yeah. so
that's one thing like in Maryland where I grew up, ⁓ we would probably once every other year, we would get a pretty substantial like snowstorm. We were good for like one every couple of years. And I'm talking like a foot, maybe a foot and a half. So like a large amount of snow is not uncommon, but they're not equipped to deal with it. So like they've only got a certain number of snowplows. So they handle like main highways first.
then large population areas, then back. And then finally they get to like local neighborhoods. So like one of my fondest childhood memories like in seventh grade, like right after my birthday, we got a foot and a half of snow and it shut down school for like a week and a half. Cause they just did not, they here, if that had happened, I would have had school two days later for sure. But because of like how the plow system works and they just were ill equipped. I had a ton of time off school. God,
Grizz (34:45)
Yeah.
So like so like so for us it's the hat but even less so because it's Texas right so like We're that but like instead of every other year it's every like five years right like And sometimes it's a decade where it doesn't happen at all. All right, so like
Ice Bear (35:23)
Yeah. Sure. Yeah.
Have you ever seen how snow plows function in Montreal? Okay. Okay, so remind me to send you a video of this later because you're probably going to find it really cool because I remember the first time I saw I was like, that is fucking wild. So Montreal gets a lot of snow, like even for Canada, like a lot of snow, like feet every year, like feet and feet and feet.
Grizz (35:33)
No, I actually never even like thought about.
Ice Bear (35:52)
And so because of like, it's an old city, a lot of roads are tight. There's a lot of one ways. There's a lot of nonsense. So what happens is.
Grizz (35:58)
Is it as tight
as New Orleans?
Ice Bear (36:02)
worse in spots. yeah, they're, yeah, no, they're spots that are very bad. Like, like, it's it's the point where like, like street parking is really enforced, like you're getting your car like moved if you leave it there after after hours. Yeah. So imagine like a plow, like trying to back this mic up so I can visualize it. So imagine a plow running down the road like so.
Grizz (36:04)
Damn, really? Because New Orleans is horrid.
Ice Bear (36:33)
So that plow has a thing that is like sucking the snow up into it into a massive like snowblower thing. So picture the way a snowblower like shoots the snow off the driveway. All right. So plow A is doing that motion, shooting it up the back and out. And there is a semi with the box cut off the top next to it. Like fucking fast and furious style. And it's just collecting the snow. And then like the snow plow will stop a little bit. The semi will drive off when it's full.
Grizz (36:43)
Yeah.
and this picture... yeah.
Ice Bear (37:03)
And then another one swoops in and they just drive in tandem down the lanes. Yeah, it's wild to look at. It's really cool, though. And then like here where we have like, you know, wider roads and like it's just we have we have plows that run nonstop because we will oftentimes, you know, it's very regular here to get a foot or more. And you're driving later the same day like the roads are spotless.
Grizz (37:08)
That's insane.
That's fucking awesome.
Ice Bear (37:31)
The plows, the plows clean it and they have like, it's a combination of like salt and some sort of weird like liquid shit they put on the road. But it's, they're fine. Like they're fine within it. Like unless it's actively snowing and icing, it's fine. Like the minute it's like the precipitation is done, it's spotless. The only time it's ever bad is when it's like coming down right then and even then it's normally passable.
Yeah.
Grizz (38:04)
I can't even fathom that because for us is like I guess like they just salt the roads there I don't what the fuck they do but it's definitely not even a liquid or like nothing I know of yeah cuz like basically all you have to do is wait for enough people to like they salt the roads and wait for enough people to go by to where they make like tire lanes enough tire lanes so it's not too bad for you that's kind of like what we got
Ice Bear (38:09)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah,
yeah, that's that's kind of if you're in rural parts of like Maryland and Delaware, the same thing. You just kind of hope that someone with a bigger car goes in front of you and you're like, sweet, tire tracks. It's going to be fine.
Grizz (38:40)
Yeah.
Yeah, that's basically what we got here.
Ice Bear (38:49)
trying to remember what they did in Japan.
because it snowed a fair amount when we were there. And I remember not having trouble getting around. But I was taking the train everywhere. So I guess I wasn't really paying attention to the roads.
Hmm. Got to ask someone.
Grizz (39:07)
pretty sure that was
sure that was a charm andres yeah
Ice Bear (39:11)
Just Charminers just lighting it
up, ever.
Grizz (39:15)
That's all they need really.
Ice Bear (39:16)
Mm-mm-mm.
Charmander. It's gotta be a better fire type for that. Better equipped. Better equipped for street work.
Grizz (39:32)
Better whatever street work. Do you think like just slugmas would be good? Because they just kind of like walk around? Right? Because they just like a team of like, this is our body and they just walk, they just, they're just gliding down. Right?
Ice Bear (39:38)
Slugmas I think would be very good. Yeah, absolutely. Because they just like melt it with their...
Yeah, the
highways get the Mac Cargos or whatever that guy's name is. And then like if you're a homeowner, have like a Litten and a Growlithe.
Grizz (39:49)
Yeah, yeah, i'm a cargo. Yeah, because basically you get a tandem of
That's how you need it.
Ice Bear (39:59)
That's it. I can't believe we solved it. It was such an easy mystery to fix.
Grizz (40:02)
I don't know why
was... see... The last go would be fixed easy, they just need to a couple of suckmums. Idiots, really.
Ice Bear (40:06)
slogmas just a couple of slogmas
Do you remember Pan's obsession with gulpins?
Grizz (40:20)
You, you, you, you GULPIN! I don't know why that became such an insult, like even the cub was calling people gulpins.
Ice Bear (40:25)
I still have
the Gulp'n with the ⁓ Sheriff Travis badge from... It's such a good, such a good stupid joke. Fucking Gulp'n.
Grizz (40:42)
It is a stupid Pokemon to be fair. This is not a good Pokemon.
Ice Bear (40:45)
Yeah. Yeah. ⁓
Grizz (40:49)
That was so good. That was really, really good.
Ice Bear (40:54)
Have you seen the rumors of the next possible region?
So presumably the same dude that ⁓ Sun Moon is out and about again. like I kinda, maybe, could be real. Presumably the next gen is gonna be based on Greece. And they have cool kind of like ⁓ Greek deity font things. I already forgot the potential names for them, but they're out there. Like if you're curious, you can find it. ⁓ But it sounded neat.
Grizz (41:26)
⁓
I'm still hoping that they're gonna do a lot another so like I get that they're doing the Legend Z right this odd one Cool, whatever right like bringing the Megas back or whatever
Ice Bear (41:30)
Cuz it's-
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Grizz (41:44)
I more than anything the next legends they do. I was originally hoping like a legends like Jotis, whatever. But the best legends they can do would be black and white.
Ice Bear (41:51)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (41:58)
If they did the legends for like the Unova region back before the main dragon got separated into was it Reshiram and Zekrom? because before all the shit with Kiram and stuff so if it was like the original dragon like if there was a legends black and white and it was like the original dragon and you're like doing the things that lead up to the dragon separating that'd be fucking amazing
Ice Bear (42:02)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm hmm.
Yeah. Yeah. I think that isn't that in the works? I think that's in the works.
Grizz (42:32)
I hope so, I haven't heard anything confirming that or not. Because the only one I know is like, legend's
Ice Bear (42:39)
Yeah, all right. I'm not gonna waste our time with it now, but afterwards, I'm pretty sure that's like in production.
Grizz (42:46)
So that'd be amazing. But yeah, I haven't heard shit about it.
Ice Bear (42:47)
Because like
they've been going in order like they've basically everything gets a reboot like all and they're on black and white now Look, that's the next thing in line
Grizz (42:56)
but yeah but that's not something for for for the reboot but like not for like legends though like legends correct yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't want i don't because it's already black and white and black and white too right
Ice Bear (43:01)
⁓ I see what you're saying. Like you want the backstory. Like you want the, okay, sorry, I misunderstood. Yeah.
Grizz (43:11)
I don't want a remake of black and white. I want, what I want, cause like, legends you have, yeah, cause legends is legends RCS and now they're doing legends like Z right? Legends. So like if they did legends for black and white tour was the prequel because like the whole, did you play black and white?
Ice Bear (43:15)
You want a prequel.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That is the only generation I missed because that was the age where I was like, I'm too cool.
Grizz (43:37)
Yeah, I genuinely believe. I think the best Pokemon game, think probably like Scarlet and Violet, I think is probably number one now, personally. Yeah, I would say story wise, think black and white is probably number one or two.
Ice Bear (43:46)
I really enjoyed them a lot.
And that's set in New York, correct? Or like, it's supposed to be New York. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so that's New York. Yeah, okay.
Grizz (43:59)
I mean, I think so. I forget. Yeah. It's the Unova region, right? And so like, yeah. So
like that, that one is absolutely phenomenal. Like that one is, it was good. What they did that was awesome about it is like, and lover hated where they region locked it.
Ice Bear (44:13)
I should go back and play it, because I heard it was also the hardest. Like it actually had a bit of difficulty to it.
Grizz (44:25)
So you could not pull other Pokemon. You couldn't use old Pokemon from other previous generations. You had to use the Pokemon of that generation. After you got to the Elite Four, you got the National Dex, and then you could start bringing in another Pokemon. But to complete the game, you had to use the Pokemon of that region. And so it's awesome, right? So you have to build a new team. have to do all this stuff. One of the guys in it, like the...
Ice Bear (44:42)
I like that. That's good.
Grizz (44:52)
the bad guys is basically like Pokemon Peta but like not shitty right it's pretty good it's basically like Pokemon and Pokemon are higher beings they don't need to be like enslaved kind of thing and so he's like ⁓
Ice Bear (45:08)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (45:12)
Kind of that's kind of his edge right well like the other organizations like now we're trying to unlock shit and fucking enslave reform the original dragon to enslave like to take over the world right so you have like these two fact-firing factions behind you just trying to get badges and shit but like it's fucking phenomenal because the backstory of it is basically that ⁓ There was a great dragon that was like destroying the land basically just
and somebody stepped in and separated the dragons powers and it made the legendaries of the region right and so there's this whole backstory of like how the legends for the game came to be and they used to they used to be united as one entity and now they're not right
Ice Bear (46:04)
That's very
cool.
Grizz (46:05)
So like having a Legends a prequel of like the dragon being the dragon and having to go through or whatever like while it gets separated would be fucking amazing.
Ice Bear (46:11)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that would be awesome.
That would be very cool. Also, have you noticed that a lot of generations after the first one where it's just like they're bad guys that are, you know, kidnappers effectively, that the villains just became freedom fighters that are slightly ahead of their time? Like a lot of the villains are not bad people.
Grizz (46:40)
Yeah, I think so.
Ice Bear (46:41)
The Britbong guy is
just a climate change guy. Like he's just an environmentalist. That's all he...
Grizz (46:47)
Like
I mean like yeah, I can see that because what was the? wood that was a Kingsman to the the bad guy was like this environmentalist nut that was like Obviously to stop climate change we needed to eradicate humanity ⁓
Ice Bear (47:07)
They're just like, they're really extreme,
like they're unnecessarily ahead of their time.
Grizz (47:14)
And
yeah, that was a tad bit of misguidedness. But then you had like this, so like you had that and then you had this like weird. ⁓ So being very frank, Sun and Moon is my most hated gen. I can't, I think Sun and Moon is kind of trash. Like some of the Pokemon in there are amazing, but I'm not a fan of the gen. Like I've replayed everyone.
Ice Bear (47:39)
You don't like the trial leaders?
You don't like the kahoo?
Grizz (47:47)
Yeah, like not a fan of that not a fan of what were the fucking Skull Kids? What were they called? The team Skull Kid? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So like them because Skull Kids is from Zelda, right? So like, but basically it's like them and then the Ultra Beasts and like, yeah, fuck. Like it's a kind of whatever they did give us Mimikyu. Mimikyu is dope as fuck. So like I'll give that to them.
Ice Bear (47:54)
Team Skull. It's just that stupid.
Gu- Gu- Guzma.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (48:13)
Also, like the pseudo legendary for Sun and Moon with Trash. ⁓ But Guzzlord's... Is Cosmo the pseudo legendary? The Dragonite. You know what mean? Like, what's the Dragonite? Isn't it that weird? ⁓
Ice Bear (48:19)
Coz-Mog?
Grizz (48:29)
The Dragon Tudor legendary. It's, it's that weird. Yeah. Yeah. Like one of the most forgettable ones. Yeah. Like one of the most forgettable ones.
Ice Bear (48:31)
K-K-K-K- ⁓
with his clanging scales.
So I will say that Gen has a lot of my favorite Pokemon, but I admit the departure from... There's something where a lot of people seem to dislike the games because they're on rails and you have so little like free world. Scarlet and Violet really corrected that. There's like a lot of open world.
Grizz (49:06)
Yeah, I did like the fact that you could just go and play face any gym you wanted to face in no matter what way.
Ice Bear (49:13)
Yeah, ⁓ if you want
to try and go get wrecked right away by the, if you somehow get up the mountain and you're like, all right.
Grizz (49:20)
What's so funny is my third gym badge was what's the fucking the ice guy, the one everybody thought was a girl.
Ice Bear (49:26)
⁓ yeah. ⁓ Don't know the name, but I know you're talking about.
Grizz (49:28)
Yeah, he was
my third gym badge.
Ice Bear (49:32)
Which
like, in order of operations, think if you're doing it by level, it should be seven.
Grizz (49:38)
Yeah, but he was my third gym badge right and and so like when it was but Yeah, but so so right now currently because I still am like I haven't like completed it completed because i've been like playing here and there and I don't want to I don't want to finish the game right, ⁓ but ⁓ Because you know like after you beat the elite four which is granted I love scarlet violet, but the elite four for this
Ice Bear (49:40)
Mm-hmm.
Did you pick fire alligator boy?
Grizz (50:03)
one was trash the champion sucked I hated I didn't like grusa grida whatever anyone's trash I don't like her but this early four was very easy but so I beat the lead for I'm like halfway through the re battling of the gym leaders where you're like auditing them ⁓ I just haven't complete I just haven't completed it
Ice Bear (50:08)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
You are just
are just haughty. Yeah.
Grizz (50:25)
Yeah, right. That's what you're doing, right?
And so like, haven't completed it because I got to want the game to be over. So I haven't finished it. But like, right now, my my Fui Koko is like at level 95 and I haven't evolved them. Yeah, because I because because I fucking love Fui Koko because I saw I saw the Torch Boy and I can't I hate him.
Ice Bear (50:41)
You just kept it for your Coco? Oh, that's fun.
You don't like my boy Skella Dirge?
Grizz (50:56)
you get Skeletor's he looks like fucking curly from from these two just the the fire the fire the fire from his mouth looks like the side hair and he gets a chrome dome and i i can't unsee that and i can't stand it but granted the ability and like was it it torch song or whatever it is is stupid stupid good but like yeah it's yeah it's ridiculous
Ice Bear (51:02)
But what about... Yeah, he does have the terrible, yeah.
It's fantastic.
It's very overpowered. kind of breaks, it
breaks the game towards the end.
Grizz (51:25)
But all of them is even like, ⁓ because like the Cubs, she picked, was it Myscarta? Right?
Ice Bear (51:31)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (51:32)
and that that trick trick shot or whatever the fuck that this move is it always crits is 100 % crit rate it's fucking ridiculous it's the signature move is just 100 % crit rate like you just get it always crits it's terrible but anyways but the funniest thing is that we're both like high level so i haven't like she's constantly like you why haven't you involved him yet
Ice Bear (51:39)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (51:57)
You know one torch song I'm like look I fucking love foe coco that fucking doofy ass little guy I thought I love that dude. He's Not anything. He's literally my favorite fire starter Like I as soon as I saw him I fell in love with that dude like my favorite fire starter by far This is foe coco. So like I haven't evolved and I nicknamed his name is Wait, do you nickname your Pokemon?
Ice Bear (52:12)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Grizz (52:23)
Yeah, I do too. I started probably like Gen 6 is when I started too. As I got older, when I started, I got tired of like, I played it since the first release, right? Like about 96. I've played it since I was six, seven, like five years old. And I played it every Gen since then. And I beat it. And I restarted, beat it. And I didn't have a lot of friends that played Pokemon. So I got red version, blue version, yellow version. So I played every Gen multiple times. Right?
Ice Bear (52:33)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (52:51)
And so I got tired and I never nicknamed my Pokemon. And then I, and I would always end up with like similar teams. And so I got tired of that. like by like gen five, I started, I started nicknaming all my Pokemon and I, if I didn't love my starter, I would box him immediately and pick another Pokemon to be my starter. Right? Like I remember going through a diamond and a hound hour was my starter. So I hound doom was my main Pokemon. And so I.
Ice Bear (53:07)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
That's
great option.
Grizz (53:20)
And so what I started doing is I started being like a trainer in the game. So I would make all, would make my team be a theme. Right. And so like, so like for one run through, had a dark team one run through, had whatever team. I would basically do that. And I would try, I would try to like not get six Pokemon. I would try to make my team as small as possible. So like three or four Pokemon.
Ice Bear (53:28)
Yes, same. I would do the same thing.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (53:43)
and that's the way I would start playing the games. ⁓ I think Sword and Shield was the first time I got six Pokemon again. ⁓ anyways, my Fookehoko is at level 96 and I'm at the point where I'm not using him right now because I have to decide if I want to evolve him or not because he's at 96. I have two levels to evolve him. So he's at level 96 and his name is Deadlift.
Ice Bear (54:11)
that's so
Grizz (54:13)
Yeah, his name is dead left is dead left the foie cocoa
Ice Bear (54:13)
good. I really, I really like this.
Grizz (54:17)
Yeah, so he's his name is dead lift and he has fire blast flamethrower ⁓ Fire blast flamethrower. I can't remember I think take down and then something else. But yeah, but he's my dude and the funniest shit is when like he When the cub like we battle
And granted, he doesn't always pull in because he's a little guy, but sometimes he does. And he one shot her level 100 Muscarta with a fire bust.
Ice Bear (54:55)
That's
fantastic.
Grizz (54:57)
It was best thing in the world. Because it's a little less Fui Koko. It's like the... What was that one ⁓ level one Rattata strategy? That stab strat? was like focus hash. Focus... ⁓ Yeah, Koko... Yeah. It was like one of those instances, you know?
Ice Bear (55:00)
Ha
⁓
Yes, and then quick attack.
I love doing meme teams with things like that where you kind of just work the chess moves. Cause there's several things you can do that are very dumb and gimmicky, like where things that have no business winning are pretty broken. ⁓ One of my favorite things to do just for like the in-game play though, is in Sword and Shield, I have a thing I like to do where I call the run.
Charlie Chaplin's Revenge and I just do nothing but Mr. Mime and Mr. Rhyme. I just, I go through and I run it through with them. It's very fun. I don't know why it brings me so much joy.
Grizz (56:02)
You
Yeah, I think what was your short and team?
Ice Bear (56:13)
⁓ let's think. What was ⁓ whatever the electric dog balti boy is ⁓ the the the the the one that's like a guy Fox Fox the evil or something.
Grizz (56:22)
yeah, yeah, he's great. Yamper's involvement. I just want Yamper, but Yamper's involvement.
yeah.
Ice Bear (56:36)
Who are the starters in that? Not the bunny. Not the bunny. I do and I don't want to say it. Okay.
Grizz (56:38)
Did you nickname them? Do remember their nicknames?
I'll give you
my I'll give you my t-v-zik names as I say
Ice Bear (56:53)
Okay, I'll say mine for my starter, and I will preface this with it genuinely is because he's a drummer and that's the only reason why his name was Questlove.
Grizz (56:59)
Relatable.
Hahaha!
That's good. I know one of my buddies, he's just starting his sword thing because he never played it. And I convinced him to play it. he got a Zagrooki. Yeah, and he named him Harambe. Yeah, he named him Harambe. Yeah. I got Sabel and named him Gex. Did you ever play Gex? Gex is like a... It's a fringe game, I've learned, but...
Ice Bear (57:26)
Yep. Grookey gang, Grookey gang. Oh, I want to redo it and name him Harambe.
Mm-mm.
I've never
even heard of it.
Grizz (57:44)
Yeah, Gex is like, you're this lizard. It's a side scroller. Part one's a side scroller. Part two and these things. It's the, there's like three or four Gex games. And it's like this adult lizard. They're like the jokes in the game are kind of adult.
Ice Bear (57:58)
Interesting.
Grizz (57:58)
it's
a phenomenal fucking game it was one of my favorite games as a kid and I rinsed it from blockbuster for the playstation and then me and my cousin loved it we played it all the time but not a lot of people know about it it's like medieval or jersey devil most people don't know these games where like cause I just had to say medieval and they're like huh? I'm like bro those fucking 3 or 4 of them what are you talking about? like jersey devil is only one but it's like those type of games where they're like
Ice Bear (58:12)
Interesting.
Grizz (58:26)
I fringe because the PlayStation had a lot of fringe games, I guess. Yeah. So, but yeah, but Gex was an amazing, was you were a lizard. So I got soluble on any of them Gex. And then I, and then I boxed his ass pretty quickly, to be honest. I wasn't in love with any of the starters. I like Grookey a lot.
Ice Bear (58:29)
Yeah, it definitely did.
Grizz (58:47)
I like score bunny too, but I was like, I don't want fucking messy on my team. I didn't pick score bunny. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't want him on my team. So I didn't pay. I didn't pick score of money. Also the combats, the, the Cub S syndrome. So I was like, I don't want the same one. Um, and then I saw really boom. I'm like, I'm not, I'm not loving the dreads. It reminds me of fucking, was it pan sage? I don't want that shit or Simmons age. I don't want that shit. So now I hated them all three of them. So like, I don't, I don't want him either, but like,
Ice Bear (58:51)
Yeah, it's just messy. It's rabbit messy.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Grizz (59:15)
But I was willing to commit to keep him this harder. Flee Coco was the only one that was so good that I was like, he's staying level one.
Ice Bear (59:15)
⁓
I should, I never thought about that. might redo sun and moon and just have Litten. Just never let him turn into that bullshit.
Grizz (59:31)
Yeah, because
Yeah, because think also the thing with Incineroar is like, Incineroar is a good Pokemon. And like, he's just a wrestler. And like, he looks cool. Out of all the humanoid Pokemon, think Incineroar is probably the best. Right? And I don't think it's even close. Like, I don't think any other humanoid Pokemon gets close to Incineroar. I can't think of one.
Ice Bear (59:40)
Yes, absolutely.
Mm-hmm.
I would agree with that.
I like Machamp. I still agree, but I think I... No, I agree. It's a pretty big margin. It's a pretty big margin.
Grizz (1:00:06)
Yeah, you know that that's Yeah,
that's fair. you know, it's so funny and I maybe because it's like a gen one bias I never put machoke and machamp as like humanoids Even though they are but yeah, but machamp I guess I never so I can see machoke but I never put machamp to it because he was like Goro from Mortal Kombat
Ice Bear (1:00:21)
Mm. Yeah.
Yes. Yes he is. Yeah.
Grizz (1:00:32)
You know what mean? like, yeah,
so like I never, I never, I would put Macho as humanoid, but I wouldn't put Machamp, even though he kind of is. That's interesting. I just kind of thought about that. I've never, in this entire time, I've never put them as humanoid.
Ice Bear (1:00:47)
Cause in your head are you just thinking of the ones that are furry bait? Yeah.
Grizz (1:00:51)
Yeah, I think
that's the biggest one. like, obviously it's like, uh, there's a furry in here and he's obviously made sense in Roar's furry bait, but it's in Roar's fucking awesome. Um, you know what? It pissed me off. The one that annoyed me the most was Fennekin's was a DelFox. Cause like DelFox, no, granted, I love the psychic fire typing. Dope. Super cool. But like.
Ice Bear (1:00:58)
Mm-hmm.
Fox show.
Yeah, that's very cool.
Grizz (1:01:19)
Love finnigan probably how much you like fin like Litten is how much I like finnigan So for finnigan to end up to Delphox I was like fucks I was so upset
Ice Bear (1:01:24)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. They're obsessed with making things bipedal.
Grizz (1:01:38)
Yeah, and the funny thing is that when they finally don't with Flee Cocoa and fucking Skeletor, I was like, I can't stand you. I hate you. I hate you.
Ice Bear (1:01:48)
I mean, he does still stand up for torch song. He rears up.
Grizz (1:01:52)
Yeah, with this, yeah. And the thing is like everything I like, cause even the couple's like, you're a musician, you should like this. like, obviously he's like a, cause Skeletor is just a fucking, he's a sugar skull. So sugar skull crocodile, a fire crocodile that's a musician that's like day of the dead. And it's like all this shit I like, including like heritage. I'm like, nah, I hate you.
Ice Bear (1:01:54)
Cool.
I'm sorry,
Fwekoko, Fwekoko all time.
Grizz (1:02:22)
But thing is, but genuinely, Food Cocoa is my favorite, like, easily my favorite starter of all time. I love that little pucker.
Ice Bear (1:02:30)
He's cute. He's cute little guy.
Grizz (1:02:34)
But yeah, see he, yeah, it's that, right? We got side tracks. So you said you got the thieving fox, the thieval. You got Quest.
Ice Bear (1:02:47)
I think it's bolt hound or bolt hooned.
Grizz (1:02:51)
Probably, yeah, because I just remember Yamper. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:02:53)
Electric doggo. ⁓
Is it rock n' rolla? It's the one that looks like a volcano.
Grizz (1:03:01)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:03:04)
that guy.
What else did I have?
⁓ the Dragapult. Probably my favorite of that whole game, especially when he has the move that shoots the two first gen guys. That's a sweet move. he's so derpy looking. He's such a of dweeby dragon. He's not intimidating, but he's cool.
Grizz (1:03:15)
I fucking love Dragapult. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's so good.
Yeah, he's on I mean having
having a ghost dragon is fucking amazing typing. It's so good one of my all-time favorites who to look injuries
Ice Bear (1:03:35)
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. I think that would be my favorite pseudo.
Grizz (1:03:47)
Yeah, he
definitely has one or two for sure.
Ice Bear (1:03:55)
I can't remember who the fifth was. I'm going to have to go back in and look at or six rather.
Grizz (1:03:58)
Yeah,
i'm trying to think of mine so like all right so for me, ⁓ had a corvonite for sure ⁓ right. Yeah corvonite fucking amazing best best bird best bird Best bird starter regional bird corvonite number one I can't I can't remember I think I named my corvonite nightmare because of socaliber
Ice Bear (1:04:06)
that was it. That was my other one. Yep. Corviknight's awesome. Yeah, actually. Buy a lot.
By a lot, yes, totally agree.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:04:24)
ride the night so i think i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure name of cover night nightmare ⁓
Ice Bear (1:04:28)
what was mine?
was it?
feel like it something Obsidian related.
Maybe it's just obsid- obsid-y. I think it was obsid-y. Yeah.
Grizz (1:04:47)
Opsie daisy Obsidian works.
Yeah, so Corviknight has nightmare. I had a dragon pole as his name was ghost ship ⁓ And then what I had I don't even remember his actual name, but it's the the imp Pokemon the fairy dark Pokemon the returns Yeah, I need an aku from yeah, I need him aku from samurai Jack
Ice Bear (1:05:09)
⁓ Grimmsnarl. I had that too.
Love it.
Grizz (1:05:17)
Right. ⁓ so I had those three ⁓ So I had those three I had a ⁓ I had a toxapex
Ice Bear (1:05:30)
Otoxapex is always good. I know that's like from that's from Sun Moon, but still great.
Grizz (1:05:32)
I love ToxaFix.
had a toxapex on my team. I never played Sun and Moon. I mean I played Sun and Moon but I didn't like play it more than once. There was an toxapex on my team. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:05:41)
Toxapex, by the way, brief aside,
in competitive is probably my favorite one to use.
Grizz (1:05:48)
Yeah. So, so toxic spikes is my staller, right? And so like I had, and the thing is, what's funny is that when I played the game as a first time, I try not to look at anything, any meta, but I ended up building like the basically competitive meta for a staller. And so like when the couple was facing me, was like, you fuck, you basically built like whatever. And I was like, shit. Cause it was like toxic spikes being full bunker. You know what I mean? Like. And recover and like.
Ice Bear (1:05:51)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Baneful Bunker is such a fantastic
move.
Grizz (1:06:17)
And so it was just my stall while I was reviving everything else, right? But then the cub did the same build, but on a fucking, ⁓ what's the hand one? The dragon hand, the legendary or mythical force on the moon? Yeah, it's the thing where it comes out as a hand.
Ice Bear (1:06:20)
Mm-hmm.
Dragon hand.
Grizz (1:06:38)
when you fight it in the story, but when you catch it, it's like a dragon, like ⁓ a morphic dragon. It's the, I can't remember its fucking name, but it's a legendary, one of the legendaries for Sun and Moon. And that's Sun and Moon, sorry, not Sun and Moon, Sun and Shield. We're talking about Sun and Shield. And Ternus, there you go. So she, because it's like, I'm very anti-legendary on your team, right? But.
Ice Bear (1:06:48)
⁓ from sun and moon?
A-a-a-a-a-
Yeah, same.
Grizz (1:07:03)
Cubs still young, Legendary days go on the team. I get it, right? Cause that was the same way. So she did a Toxapex build on a fucking Eternus. And I was like, and we battled like, how the fuck am I going to beat this shit? It was terrible. She fucking killed my ass cause of this. Cause it's a Toxapex stall build on Eternus. It's fucking stupid.
Ice Bear (1:07:06)
Of co- sure.
Mm-hmm.
I remember one of my one of my buddies in college, his team was six Arceus with like all the different places like, like, really, really
Grizz (1:07:29)
I'm just...
Well, you should be able to beat it if you're playing a song. That's the only way, like the cup says, I'm like, you know what?
Ice Bear (1:07:37)
Yeah.
⁓ Okay.
And so after that, because this was this was when like, ⁓ they
Grizz (1:07:47)
I go
real quick because we're at 107. We doing the third? All go, go, go, go, go. Get your tachin.
Ice Bear (1:07:51)
Let's go. Let's go. I'll grab mine.
Grizz (1:08:23)
donating to the Better Women's shelter. Because polar bears don't like to do it.
Ice Bear (1:08:30)
Say one more time. I thought you were talking to me.
Grizz (1:08:34)
No, I was was besmirching your honor.
Ice Bear (1:08:36)
I like that. I think it would be really funny if one of these days when I got up, I just didn't have pants. I was just Winnie the Pooh-ing it.
Grizz (1:08:44)
Like full on tidy whiteys.
Ice Bear (1:08:47)
Fuck, I would buy a pair just for the joke.
Grizz (1:08:49)
Yeah.
When's the last time you were trying to whitey's I know exactly what I did. Cause it was traumatizing.
Ice Bear (1:08:57)
debating if I want to share this. Okay, it's not it's not it's not gonna be worse than mine. So you go ahead and then I'll one up you most assuredly.
Grizz (1:09:01)
I'll share mine cuz mine's embarrassing. I know exactly the last day I wore it
Alright.
Okay.
So, let's do it. We'll try it. ⁓ Beautiful. A follow up.
Ice Bear (1:09:24)
Should I crack my third one before you start telling the story?
Grizz (1:09:38)
I'm not going to crack pour mine into the glass because of so much of sediment in there and I don't want to get it. Ooh, that's a nice amber. That's like a fucking aerodactyl. Mine, mine. Rooted Ranger and PLIPA. This was my daily drinker until Geosforce came out.
Ice Bear (1:09:50)
Okay.
All right, so let me hit you with this, because I was excited for this one. I think you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong. I think this might be a first. So this is Mind Over Matter from Full Time Flagship. It is a 7 % Mead.
So mead over matter. Inspired by an ancient mead recipe, mind over matter is a braggot style, brago, braggot, I don't know. ⁓ Mead brewed with a combination of Canadian, I know I was a little worried saying it, combination of Canadian, two-row barley and honey. This creates a velvety, smooth and refreshing ale with some lingering honey sweetness. You'll definitely be
Grizz (1:10:19)
first.
That's a slur.
Ice Bear (1:10:44)
buzzing from this authentic historic treat.
Grizz (1:10:49)
that can mean I don't think I've ever seen that actually I'm such a fan of that old like boxer fucking motif yeah I fucking love like I genuinely love it like I 1000 % do
Ice Bear (1:10:58)
Yeah, the meh. Meh, see? Meh!
Yeah, same. Okay, tell me the tidy, whitey tail.
Grizz (1:11:09)
Alright, so here's my title here. Be Me. A Young Grizz. And... Fuck. Eighth grade. Alright. So here's the thing. I have already made the switch to boxers.
Not boxer briefs. was that was in high that was towards high school. I made the switch to boxers like the loose fit right spreading thing in like fifth grade to sixth grade. That's when I meant the switch to boxers. Come eighth grade old mama gris was like you are a fucking you are becoming a young man in eighth grade eighth grade I was 12 11 turn 12 is like you're becoming a young man.
Granted, she told me this like in fifth grade. I started doing it a little bit of it. So like by when I was in Catholic school, I would have to do my, would have to wash my gym uniforms on a washboard because we only had three. We have, we had five days of gym. So like I had, so we didn't have enough for every day. So we had to wash them. So we had to wash them in the bathtub on a washboard. So I had to wash some of my clothes, not all of my clothes. Bye.
8th grade my mom was like you're a grown ass you're a young man you can handle your own shit you wash your own clothes i'm not washing your clothes for you you're you can do it so was like bet i didn't do it so so there comes a day all all cub gris didn't didn't do his laundry
I'm out of boxers. I already flipped one. I already flipped one inside out. It didn't work too good. Back in Jeff Oxford, they lied to me that it should've work. So I was like, okay, I'm not doing that again. All I had left was some old tighty-whities. And I was like, you know what? Fuck it. You can't see them. Nobody's gonna care. Nobody's gonna know. Go to school in tighty-whities.
So I have, I enrolled into art class for my extracurricular activity. Unbeknownst to me is that one semester is art, one semester is theater arts. So during the semester I was in theater arts, I was in a portable, which doesn't know what portable is. It's, know, you're not part of the main school. You're in a separate class or whatever, like, you know, thing. So we're walking on a long pathway outside the building to the portables.
Ice Bear (1:13:38)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:13:47)
In the midst... So during this time, there was a pantsing epidemic going on in our school. Olgres, in my normalcy bias, like, it's never gonna happen to me. So we had this famous bridge, tiny little bridge that went over a little ditch going from the portables to the school. And as I hit the crest of the bridge, Olgres was attacked.
by attacked I mean I had a friend who was in the portable next to me. And this is 8th period. I'm talking about like I've walked through the entire day of no nothing in Pattiwities. I'm finishing 8th period. I'm walking to my locker to get my backpack so can go to the bus stop. And as I crest this bridge.
an ass- an ass- an assassin, an assailant runs and pounces me.
Ice Bear (1:14:58)
truly dark times.
Grizz (1:14:59)
My pants hit my knees and I catch them. But Heidi Wities are out.
Ice Bear (1:15:05)
And everyone knows.
Grizz (1:15:07)
Everyone knows the girls in my class We're all walking out of the class at the same time. They see him tidy whitey's out out of there and then it's like Cruz wears tidy whitey's and this is like like no, don't I'm not a clean underwear Which is not a good it sounds like an excuse. It is an excuse, but it sounds like a fake excuse And so
Ice Bear (1:15:28)
Yeah. Yes, it does.
Grizz (1:15:33)
That was mine. Embarrassed in front of everybody. All the girls. All the everything. It was horrid. Absolutely horrid.
Ice Bear (1:15:38)
you
Yeah.
Grizz (1:15:46)
Real quick, before you start talking, mess with your cord in the back because you sound like a robot right now.
Unplug it and plug it back in.
It sounded like robot. But when you unplugged it though, it did come out. Lower your gain a little bit.
still something happened
It's definitely the cable.
still sound like a robot but all we're just gonna we're just gonna run through it we might have to get you another cable
No, your picture is great. I think it's literally just a cable.
Ice Bear (1:17:06)
Can you hear it?
Grizz (1:17:07)
I can hear you sound like a robot though. We're going to go with bionic ice spirit for the rest of this episode. fine.
Ice Bear (1:17:13)
I'm gonna do a speed, no my speed's fine
Grizz (1:17:15)
You know, because your audio, your video is perfect. I genuinely think it's just the cable.
Ice Bear (1:17:22)
I try and switch to the... I don't know how to fix that.
Grizz (1:17:27)
Yeah, think we're going have to replace the cable.
Ice Bear (1:17:31)
Have fun now.
Grizz (1:17:33)
No, but you're fine. We'll just go you'll just be a bionic bear. It's
It is what it is. We'll see anyway.
Ice Bear (1:17:46)
So. ⁓
My tail is a bit, I don't know, maybe it's my personal experience, but I feel like mine's more horrifying. So same time period, eighth grade. I have also recently made the transition to boxers.
Grizz (1:18:04)
embarrassing.
Ice Bear (1:18:05)
free in the breeze, flopping around. Now I, being a youthful bear, becoming a man myself, am prone to, shall we say, an abundance of excitement, which boxers tend to reveal. So I, having the big brain energy that to myself, I didn't throw out my tidy whiteys. I'm going to wear my tidy whiteys under my boxers.
And then when I go to gym class, when I go to gym class, figuring out where's Bonch is, he's cool, he's hip, but I will have my whiny tighties keeping me safe and sound underneath.
Grizz (1:18:35)
That's actually smart.
That's smart. That's a sheet of armor.
Ice Bear (1:18:49)
I did this for most of the year until one fateful day where, now I'm slightly older than you, so at this point the And One mixtape tour was in full force. Skipped my little hot sauce, crossing people up. There was a maneuver that was regularly performed on mixtapes where hot sauce would cross them up, throw the ball behind their back, then
Grizz (1:19:03)
Okay, gotcha,
Ice Bear (1:19:17)
when they turned like this to where the ball go, the ball thrower went, pants up. So one of my friends was very good, crazy handles could have been the next hot sauce might even be for all I know. He got me. And he got boxers too. But there I was with the tiny white he's still saving me. And this was mid game where there were a lot of onlookers.
all the fun and point of a laugh that my secret was revealed.
Grizz (1:19:51)
Hahaha
Ice Bear (1:19:53)
And I cried in my sleep.
Grizz (1:19:56)
I have played that off as in like I was being prepared. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, because it's like I can't wear another pair of boxers because if you grab the one pair, you're going to grab the second pair. So I had to also do that. I'd rather have that than have my ass chase a wiener out. I would have leaned into it like I fucking knew it was going to happen. Yeah, I would have lied my fucking ass off.
Ice Bear (1:19:59)
I was ready for it. I should have. I didn't have that foresight.
I should have done that, but I didn't.
Yeah, like I was playing 70 chess.
I wish I was a smaller kid. ⁓
Grizz (1:20:29)
I think it just grew up because I was like because of my dad and uncle, they were like the worst fucking bullies ever. Like, and yeah, and every single time these are the guys, the guys that also put me in a pipe club as a kid, right? Like the, like the, the, these are the guys that like, anytime I got into a shit battle or like talk shit to with people is like,
Ice Bear (1:20:38)
They seemed rough.
Grizz (1:20:57)
This isn't a bad at all because my dad is way fucking worse than my uncle or a way worse. So they find weakness in you in any way. It's being exploited. And so like if some shit happens all summer, like, and we're out, we're out by the coast all summer, all summer, you're getting that shit have a hand to you. So like you have to have thick skin and you have to be good. So like when I got bullied at school or like when, like, you know, when they were in front of me for the tidy whitey, so was like.
you know, I had comebacks at the very least because like I had to fight for my life for my cousin, my uncle, my dad, because they are the worst. They still are the worst. So, you know.
Ice Bear (1:21:43)
You were well prepared for the bullies of middle school and high school. ⁓
Grizz (1:21:57)
gotta hit it there you go it's the best way just let it coat your tongue and then take a swig
I'll go down there.
Ice Bear (1:22:09)
It's good, by the way. ⁓
Everything I've had today is a P minus. It's all been good.
Grizz (1:22:20)
Good, good.
Ice Bear (1:22:21)
the
Grizz (1:22:32)
Queen in the Mist, Liz Vixen here, A plus. Fantastic, one of the best sours I've ever had in my life. Green Acres, Jester King, Ruffucking Redemption Arc, I'm giving you a B plus. Solid, solid hazy, solid beer. Fantastic. ⁓ I always give Voodoo Ranger Juice Force a B plus. It's a great beer.
Ice Bear (1:22:49)
Nice.
Grizz (1:23:02)
super great juicy hazy IP imperial IPA this regular imperial IPA 9 %
It's a B minus. It's an above average beer. It's one like as like from a big brewery, a big brewer. If you don't mind bitter, this beer is fucking fantastic.
Ice Bear (1:23:39)
I think I have a name for the episode.
Grizz (1:23:43)
Let's close this puppy out and then we'll go. You'll tell me. But for now, any last words?
Should be something robotic. Domo-origato.
Ice Bear (1:24:03)
Mr. Roboto
