Ice Bear (00:33)
Yours just sexed in my face.
Grizz (00:33)
I think that was...
that was a real powerful snap and I think this is actually going to be perfect because this is exactly our energy and I think it really translated here. So I'm gonna just take the initiative and go first. I've been on a Fort Worth kick lately, my boys in Martin House have been showing up time and time again. So I was like, you know what, let's do this. And you know...
Ice Bear (00:53)
Please do.
Grizz (01:03)
I think they made this for us because there's been a debate before about bears, grizzly bear versus a certain animal.
Ice Bear (01:11)
There sure has.
Grizz (01:12)
and the obviously winners are grizzly bear. It's not the other animal. I tend to just, I tend to win those arguments and that argument leaves this guy with gorilla tears.
It is Gorilla Tears, this guy right here. The real issue with this is that he seems like he'd be a friend. A funky fresh friend. An awesome fella who's hip to the jive. He's a hip to the jive. He has some very, very cool fucking sunglasses going. Great fucking teeth and a Martin... Yeah. And a Martin House chain or the small tier, what was it? A one thug tier.
Ice Bear (01:37)
⁓ the aloha shirt.
the little yeah I was gonna say the little little underbite the little tsundere underbite
Grizz (01:57)
right there. This is Gorilla Tears. This right here is a fruit punch sour sitting at 8%.
Ice Bear (02:05)
That looks great.
Grizz (02:07)
I'm very excited about this one.
Ice Bear (02:08)
That's
a f- I would honestly wear that whole outfit by the way. Yellow glasses, aloha shirt. If I could get- if I could get my canines, you know, outside of my gums, I would do it. No problem. Speaking of giant teeth, have you ever seen the inside of a hippo's mouth?
Grizz (02:12)
Great outfit.
Yes, but no, like I've seen it when they eat like watermelons and shit, but I've never actually like really looked at it though.
Ice Bear (02:30)
Yes.
This is why it popped in my head. was watching a video the other day where a hippo was eating a watermelon. What the fuck is going on there? Why are their teeth gigantic daggers that stick in weird directions? And then further into their throat, they have like normal molar looking things kind of Allah that movie teeth. Have you ever seen teeth? Yes.
Grizz (02:45)
I gotta look at this.
inch.
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ice Bear (02:58)
That's what their throat looks like. That's what it makes me think of. All right, so hold on. I need to have a swing because I'm thirsty.
Grizz (03:05)
Yeah.
While you have a swig though, see, people's mouths are crazy, but the craziest animal mouth to me is fucking, what is it? The camel's mouth. There's a camel cheek inside cheeks thing is fucking horrifying.
Ice Bear (03:19)
I don't know if I know what this looks like. We might have to do a little bear investigation.
Grizz (03:21)
Actually hold on, actually hold on. I'm
going to bring it up. You introduce your beer.
Ice Bear (03:27)
Okay, fantastic. So I thought given our current political climate, it's time for the bears to weigh in on where they stand with politics in general, the people want to know they want to know we're not betraying their alliances and their allegiances. So I thought you should know I have a strong opinion that we should make milk bags great again.
So this is a Canadian red ale. There is no milk in this beer. But if you understand the satisfaction of perfectly shipping the top corner of a bag of milk, you're Canadian to the core. Where did that little plastic piece go? You just chopped one clean off? If you did it correctly, it's somewhere in the drawer with the scissors. This is our identity. That's why this Canadian red ale was brewed for you smooth, crisp and slightly malty.
Grizz (04:04)
Hehehehe
Hehehehehe
⁓ my god
Ice Bear (04:25)
with juuuust
Grizz (04:25)
that is
Ice Bear (04:27)
the right amount of bitterness pours deep red much like the color of an aggressively toasted elba. ⁓
Grizz (04:33)
That is
absolutely beautiful. ⁓ my fucking God. I love that shit. That is perfectly Canadian and perfectly fucking awesome.
Ice Bear (04:40)
It really
is. It really is. The amount of elbows up shirts I see these days, high. Mike Myers did a number on the psyche of the public.
Grizz (04:44)
Thank
I fucking love like I'm all for people like being I Because like Texas is very very Texas and it's very very pro Texas over everything else So I love seeing other people that give like that energy for their own spot It's just it just warms my heart. It really does
Ice Bear (05:02)
Mm-hmm.
Yep. Things have.
We've talked about this before, but the US in general has very different cultures. There's a shit ton on them. Like there's some states that you can kind of bunch together, but there's a whole bunch of very different cultures. so Ontario is a little bit bigger than Texas, but it by itself is very different than the rest of Canada. So yeah, it's, it's been interesting to see that. And there's almost like a
relocalization which is
Grizz (05:48)
I love it. It's fucking awesome.
So we had a great little moment. I'm about to fucking ruin it. Ready for this shit? Camel mouth.
Ice Bear (06:00)
It looks like one of those, ⁓ what do you call them? A saran pit? Are those teeth?
Grizz (06:04)
Yeah, look at this shit right here.
That's the inside of their cheeks. This is their teeth. This is their teeth. This is the inside of their cheeks. Here's the roof of their mouth right here.
Ice Bear (06:14)
Is that more
teeth or is it just really big ridges? I don't even understand what I'm looking at.
Grizz (06:20)
It's these crazy ridges because their teeth are just here in the front and you have the two like canine looking thingies. You have some molars back here and then you have the same thing in the front, just molars. But like ⁓ from what I've read about it is like these crazy like flesh spikes. It's kind of helped like to, I think it was like to...
Ice Bear (06:26)
Okay. Yeah.
What the absolute fuck is going on there?
Uh-huh.
Grizz (06:45)
like extract water and taint water and shit like when they eat cactus and all that crazy shit they eat because they can just eat whole cactus spikes and all and shit yeah but yeah but this shit right here is like
Ice Bear (06:53)
Sure. Okay.
Grizz (06:57)
like you remember mid 2000s or like 2010s yeah I was like like mid like the teens there was ⁓ people were like learned what trypophobia was and they all swear they had it right like everybody swore they had trypophobia the holes yeah everybody swore they had it because they just learned what it was on the internet right that feeling they explain is actually it's this it's this right here it's this cheek this is what this cheek is it's visually disgusting
Ice Bear (07:12)
⁓ the little sir.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (07:27)
And so yes inside of a camel's mouth it is fucking horrific
Ice Bear (07:33)
That is deeply upsetting. Well, pull up a hippo mouth now. You might as well.
Grizz (07:37)
But I love these guys. Camels are fucking cute as shit though. I fucking love camels.
Ice Bear (07:39)
would if
you had a camel would you want the one hump or the two hump
Grizz (07:44)
I think I think I would like a two home but I know they're more expensive so I take a one home.
Ice Bear (07:51)
I would take either, but I would want a two-humper. That just seems like such a pleasant nook to sit in between.
Grizz (07:54)
Yeah, I.
That is actually fair. Dude, this dude's motherfucker's cute. Look at this fucking- Lookin' doofy ass dude. ⁓ shit, that is wild. Holy fuck.
Ice Bear (08:01)
Hippos are very adorable, but then once they open their mouth...
But isn't that bizarre? They're at weird angles. Like it doesn't seem like the teeth should close. The fucking I told myself going into this episode, cut down likes per minute. I don't want to be a valley girl, but I can't help myself. I get too excited looking at hippo mouths.
Grizz (08:12)
Yeah.
Dude, hippomaths are fucking wild. Holy shit.
Ice Bear (08:28)
So that's the part, like that angle there, that's where they really freak me out when you can look in that back, whatever the hippo equivalent of a uvula is, because there's more fucking molars back there.
Grizz (08:34)
Yeah.
That is so fucking interesting.
Ice Bear (08:43)
Can you imagine... having to fight a hippo?
Grizz (08:47)
you're dead. You're dead. 1000%. You're dead. They're not even close because they're fast as shit too, right?
Ice Bear (08:53)
Why isn't that in the in the public zeitgeist? The the 100 men versus hippo hippos fucking run and train on those
Grizz (08:55)
Yeah.
yeah, Hippo's winning. ⁓
There was the whole thing, because there's people that are trying to take back sharks, where everybody's got shark attacks and shit. it's like, are like, sharks actually aren't that bad, bro.
like they're like, ⁓ did you know most shark attacks happen within 20 feet of the shore? And it's like, well, no shit, cause that's where humans are. like, of course, most of the shark attacks are going to be there, right? Like humans are going to fucking be a hundred fucking miles outside of the thing. Unless you're on a ship and most humans on con ships. So of course, most of the shark attacks are very localized to where the humans can be. ⁓ but one of the, also, one of the big things is that, ⁓ there's gonna most there's more people per year.
Ice Bear (09:25)
Ha ha ha!
Grizz (09:46)
die by hippo attacks and shark attacks yeah yeah that also is kind of one of those things were like statistically yeah of course cuz I'm pretty sure more people are by hippos and by sharks so yeah like kind of of course but like but you know sharks are cool
Ice Bear (09:50)
I believe it, that makes sense.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Sharks are cool. What ever happened to shark week? That used to be quite the craze. People would freak out.
Grizz (10:12)
Is there still Discovery Channel?
Ice Bear (10:14)
is that what maybe that went away? I didn't even think of that.
Grizz (10:17)
Yeah, because I haven't really heard anything about Discovery Channel in a hot minute, but I haven't had like cable in forever. Yeah, it's been over a decade and a half, two decades.
Ice Bear (10:22)
I was gonna say, when's the last time you had cable?
I
haven't had cable in 20 years.
Grizz (10:31)
Yeah, has a SMB hidden like at least two decades.
Ice Bear (10:33)
It was,
it was, it was when I lived with my parents. That's the last time I had cable.
Grizz (10:37)
Yeah, think Yeah, I can't remember
Ice Bear (10:41)
I've never had
it on my own. I always just went straight to internet.
Grizz (10:45)
Yeah, same. When I lived alone, never actually ever had a cable. It was just internet. And that was like before, like Netflix was super huge too. was just like, got YouTube, I'm good.
Ice Bear (10:57)
The other thing I would do, and I believe we've talked about this, Redbox 100%. Dude, Redbox was great. Also, when Redbox closed and they started just selling shit for like $4, fantastic. Blu-ray, four bucks, sure. That is the only reason I own Shazam. I don't like that movie that much. It was just $3. was like, all right, I'll buy it.
Grizz (11:01)
Red box.
Redbox is solid, dude. I fucking love Redbox. Do Redboxes...
Yeah. ⁓
Ha
Shazam
like the new superhero the newer newer superhero movie or the ⁓
genie pirate thing.
Ice Bear (11:31)
I think that's, is that called Shazam 2 or is Kazam? It's not Shaq. It's not the Shaq one. It's the red and yellow silly kind of Spider-Man white dude. Yeah, that thing. Which is a funny movie, but I never would have bought it if it wasn't Red Boxer 3.
Grizz (11:34)
or is it cause it might be cuz am right okay because i remember the shack one the okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Yeah,
never watched it. I heard good things about it. I never watched it.
Ice Bear (11:59)
Let me tell you, first couple sips and this might be another thirsty thing, but it's looking up. These milk bags are feeling mighty fine.
Grizz (12:10)
you feel the maple leaves flow through you like the red ale is actually from crushed maple leaves that's patriotism blowing through you my friend
Ice Bear (12:18)
You know what I've realized?
I've been here now as long as I lived anywhere. So this is now, this is now tied with when I was with my parents, like middle school into high school. So yeah, I've been, yes. Yeah. Moved around a lot. So five years is like, holy shit. I've been in one place for five years.
Grizz (12:26)
Mmm.
That's fair. Because you did move around a lot, right? So like, that doesn't make sense, yeah.
Does it feel like home yet? Like I get you have a home and everything, but does it feel like home? You know what I mean? Like, like, tendentially, you know what I mean?
Ice Bear (12:52)
Yes,
and it actually did very quickly. I would say I was maybe here a year or two, and it felt correct. And other than Washington, I think this is the only plate that ever felt like that.
Grizz (13:10)
So even more so than like Hawaii and shit like that.
Ice Bear (13:12)
I loved Hawaii for a lot of reasons, but it never felt like home. It always felt like I was visiting my parents' home, which is why I wanted to go there. I wanted to know where both my parents grew up. But it never felt like home. The seasons never... The endless summer always bothered me. It's too small.
Grizz (13:17)
Yeah, I can see that.
Hmm, just now, okay.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
Dude, I couldn't
stand that.
Ice Bear (13:38)
⁓ another thing that really weirded me out that I didn't understand or know how to appreciate at the time. And this may have changed. I don't know what a wall whose demographics are now, but when I live there, there weren't black people, which I didn't register, but it weirded me out. It really, cause 50 50 and my neighborhood was more black than white.
Grizz (13:58)
I could see that. mean, growing up in Maryland, yeah.
Yeah, I could totally see that.
Ice Bear (14:05)
So just when like
you're out at a grocery store or a Walmart and you're used to like a certain community It's very weird
Grizz (14:13)
Yeah, I could totally see that. Yeah, because even when I was in Washington for like the, when was in Seattle for like a, I don't know, like what, week and a half?
Ice Bear (14:23)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (14:23)
it was like it was very it's not it's not too bad because it's not actually too different than like some like going to an asian market or something like that or sort of certain parts it wasn't too different but it was very it was very different i'll say like not less like like demographically different but like culturally different right and so like it's because there's because i've traveled a decent amount and like i've traveled a decent amount there's definitely things where like
Ice Bear (14:43)
Sure. Yeah.
Grizz (14:53)
Othering and that's kind of very normal right because you're visiting but like there's a one where you're like, you're so So far away from me that it's it's it's it's a little weird Right cuz I cuz I cuz you get There's that in, California
Ice Bear (14:56)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Grizz (15:09)
but like you have other things that kind of like bring you closer but there's like, there's nothing like, you know what mean? Like outside of being human, there's like nothing that's like really, like we can't bond over shit unless like we both like lifting or some shit. You know what I mean? Like outside of like a general interest that I have no idea if you like or not, I won't be able to fucking like, there's no tie of kinship that we can fucking.
Ice Bear (15:25)
Yep.
Yeah.
Grizz (15:38)
Initially bond over so like it's it's like it's very interesting
Ice Bear (15:42)
trying to fit puzzle pieces together and someone has a puzzle and the other person has just a big bag of shit opinions. Speaking of Jenga blocks, have you seen the gigantic like, like two by four size towers of these things?
Grizz (15:50)
and a jingle block.
Yeah, so
we have a mid-sized one that we do and I have a video of the tiger playing with my mom. because, so we played in a giant Jenga block thing a long time ago and my stepdad was like...
Ice Bear (16:08)
You
Grizz (16:15)
he's like, fuck yeah. He's like, you know what? Those are fucking awesome. So every time we'd have get togethers, everybody would drink and have a party and like you bring out the speakers and you know, Mexicans, right? So like the whole thing. So what he did is he bought a bunch of two by fours and just fucking cut and cut the jingle block. So we have a giant plastic tote full with like two by four jingle blocks that we bust out. Yeah. And so we bust them out. And it's funny because like we didn't sand shit. So like the first week it was rigid as shit. It's rigid as shit, but we playing it so much.
Ice Bear (16:42)
Splinters.
Grizz (16:45)
like they smoothed out so they come out easier now because we played it so much. Right. And so you think like you got like 12 adults here freaking like drinking, partying, listening to music and just playing the fucking jingling thing. It's funny as shit.
Ice Bear (17:00)
So speaking of games, do you play this indoors or outdoors?
Grizz (17:05)
⁓ Usually I mean address on the patio like the enclosed patio, right?
Ice Bear (17:08)
Okay. Okay.
So that made outdoor games pop in my head. Do you or have you ever messed with frisbee?
Grizz (17:19)
Frisbee, ⁓ never as like a sport thingy, but like we played it as a kid, like we had Frisbees as kids, but the thing is that everybody sucked.
so it was never good, was rarely ever good. The only person that was good was my dad and my uncle. And they were the only ones that was able to target a frisbee and fucking get it. It's like when they get passed it to each other. Us as kids, we'd be fucking throw it and we'd just fucking pull it. Everybody'd be chasing it, so we hated it. Funny enough, friends from work were like, bro, we're gonna go play fucking disc golf. You wanna come? they're super big on it. And I'm like, eh.
Ice Bear (17:54)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (17:57)
I mean, like, I actually do want to play because it seems fun. But like. I got to tell the tiger, hey, I'm going to like talk to you right now. I'm going to, I'm going to go outside and play frisbee with my friends. It's like, ah, he, he.
Ice Bear (18:00)
It's really fun.
Hahaha!
You're an athlete. Okay, so here's the thing. You and your potential trek to the pack Northwest made me think about this because when I was there, ⁓ my roommate and I would regularly go down to ⁓ this park by the Puget Sound and toss a frisbee around. And because of how Washington's climate is, the grass there is very lush and it's very easy to walk around barefoot pretty much everywhere.
Grizz (18:18)
Good.
nice
love that
Ice Bear (18:45)
And so it's super fun to be a hippie and just go down to the park, smoke a hookah, take your shoes off. And now, now at this point at the time I'm sad because I hadn't really developed my taste buds for beer, but now. ⁓ if you go out there and then I come out there, I definitely think at least once we should do some, some frizz in the park.
Grizz (18:49)
Take your shoes off. Yeah. ⁓
I'm so damn. I
am so damn. One of the things too is I found out the smoking laws in Seattle is fucking horrid. like, oops. So we have to go to a neighboring res and go to the casino to go to a cigar lounge. Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (19:23)
⁓ that's fine. Resins are
cool.
Grizz (19:26)
say we gotta go do that, like, I'm learning to do a book, but again, if I tell the tiger, hey, I'm leaving the city to go to a...
Ice Bear (19:37)
Oh,
and actually remember, if you haven't done this already, remember to check your phone plan because a lot of the times when you're on res land, it's international data. So. So a couple, a couple of texts can really get expensive fast on res land. Yeah.
Grizz (19:44)
⁓ red stuff, that's true. Dude, I totally forgot about it you have that problem in Oklahoma. So yeah, true, Yeah, true, true, true.
I gotta see that. they do have private, there's no cigar lounges because you can't smoke within the vicinity of an employee, apparently.
or 25 feet from openings like windows and doors and stuff, right? And so like, there's no cigar lounges, but what they do have, you have to pay membership to be there.
Until like I'm thinking I'm going to do which is guess probably not gonna like but like they do they have private cigar clubs that you can go there's no employees So you go there you bring your own stuff you basically you go to your own stuff and you bring you you can have a locker humidor where you put your cigars in and shit and You go in there you bring you bring your own beer you bring your own whiskey you bring your all your own setups But you just go there to smoke because you got nowhere else to smoke and once you own a house Out there in the backyard you ain't got shit
Ice Bear (20:28)
You're Frasier! You're gonna be Frasier!
I love it.
Grizz (20:48)
So you gotta go there All that be So it sounds fun like I'm down I'm down for it But all that being said I can walk past the guys fucking smoke doing fucking fentanyl and that's It's like oh shit you're a piece of shit well, you know it is what it is
Ice Bear (20:50)
That actually sounds pretty fun.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Sometimes the lines drawn in the sand don't make a whole lot of sense.
Grizz (21:14)
So we'll see if this comes to fruition which it looks more and more like it might Yeah, so I'm gonna be joining a cigar society out there
Ice Bear (21:24)
⁓
a society of cigar aficionados. ⁓
Grizz (21:27)
I hope they
fucking don't suck. I just swear to God.
Ice Bear (21:30)
saying aficionados very fast. I don't I feel like there's two types of cigar smokers. There's cool ones. And then there's absolute fucking assholes and there's no in between.
Grizz (21:43)
Think it's like I'm fine with both. I'm fine with the guy being a fucking asshole about it cuz I could be one back I Like I got like it's There's something I don't necessarily mind that I just more hope like ⁓ You know
so some Texas people aren't welcomed really well over there you know and so like I'm like I hope that's not a fucking issue because then because then I'll be like you'll be an asshole I'll be an asshole it's not gonna be fun I'd rather just like you know like let's just smoke some guys bro
Ice Bear (22:16)
I do kind of get a kick out of the thought of some ⁓ melanin-lacking lad having a stern talking to you about Mexican immigration. ⁓ That brings me a lot of joy.
Grizz (22:29)
Hehehehe
It would be hilarious. ⁓
Ice Bear (22:36)
Mwuhuh Latinx!
Grizz (22:40)
I like how people since a Latin X, I say Latin X, Kleenex. That's the one I like.
Ice Bear (22:48)
I've never have I heard that maybe I have heard that I just didn't pay attention
Grizz (22:52)
I call it Latinx because I heard it and I was like, that's the perfect... But I like how collectively everybody that I know hates it. And it still pops up here and there.
Ice Bear (22:56)
Latinx.
I try to always defer to if it's something where it's a cultural issue and I'm not part of the culture, I'm going to defer to the people whose culture it is. It seems very weird for like a white person to try and insert themselves and be like, this is you should feel about blah, Have your opinions about being fucking one quarter German. Like that's your lane, fella. Stay in that lane.
Grizz (23:20)
Yeah.
Yeah, natural.
You
the one the one lane that this should stay out of is Swedish tacos you didn't see I sent you the link to the thing you know what you know what fuck it we're doing this we're gonna do it live I have it here I'm gonna bring it up we're gonna watch it live
Ice Bear (23:44)
Okay, please tell me about Swedish tacos because I
God.
Alright, how was Gorilla Tears by the way?
Grizz (23:57)
Gorilla tears, I am leaning towards a solid. Oh my god, we're leaning towards a solid. B-. Good sour. Good sour. B- nice.
Ice Bear (24:07)
I'm going B+. Those milk
bags were in fact great the first time.
Grizz (24:14)
Yeah, I'm going, I am going a good. ⁓
Ice Bear (24:21)
Cough
Grizz (24:22)
Yeah,
I'm going a solid like B minus. It was a super, was above average sour. It was great. Delicious. I don't know if anybody's had it, but if you ever had the Walmart Sam's choice or Sam's club fruit punch soda, it kind of tastes like that. It's pretty great. It's pretty dope. It was actually really good. I liked it a lot. ⁓ Before we go on to the next things, we are sharing where we are watching this.
Ice Bear (24:29)
Nice.
Interesting.
Grizz (24:52)
We are watching this together.
Meat fine taco seasoning general fine Cucumber low weird onion fine tomato fine ⁓
⁓ Corn grain, kinda weird, not sure. ⁓
Ice Bear (25:50)
Two things I didn't hear a word you were saying the entire time because the volume on that video is through the fucking roof
Grizz (25:55)
And
I turn it down too, but yeah. No, so basically look, meat, fine. Good. Also good. But we started getting to the fucking olives, disgusting. But I have seen some taco salads that have olives in it. Blasphemy and terrible. Fucking pickles, little weird. Cheetos, very weird. Fucking bananas, bro? Bananas?
Ice Bear (26:18)
Hahaha
The bananas did give me a little pause, I won't lie.
Grizz (26:26)
So,
so like, yeah, it's, it's a whole thing. Ooh, that looks fucking beautiful. So mine, you want to go, you want to announce yours first before. ⁓
Ice Bear (26:38)
Yeah, that way you can get a good crack in. So ⁓ I've had a few things from this brewery before this little lad from Bose is an approachable light bodied classic amber reimagined. This is the main reason I got this and I'll point it out. I'll try and get the camera to pick up. This is barn burner amber ale from Bose.
Grizz (26:41)
Alright.
I
love that name
Ice Bear (27:05)
And the reason
I got it was, come on, buddy. It's this little cow right here. Come on, focus on the cow. That cow just made me so happy when I saw him because around him, there's just several people drunkenly dancing. There's a bunch of lads playing like, like Hakeem Olajuwon beer pong over here. And...
Grizz (27:10)
I can't do the cat.
Ha ha.
Ice Bear (27:29)
⁓ a last that looks like she's getting felt up by another guy. There's a bonfire, there's cornhole, there's people playing slap cup in the fucking barn. It looks like a great time and the cow's just in the middle of all of it. It makes me very happy.
Grizz (27:46)
love the name, I love the art, it's great.
Ice Bear (27:49)
I would like to have that whole thing I just said redone in Swedish. It sounds like it's such a goofy, sing-songy language. Sorry, Swedes. You're better than us, I'm sure.
Grizz (27:57)
It really does.
debatable so they're actually IKEA though so you could be a punch for IKEA IKEA and PewDiePie yeah yeah yeah I've got you have brought us some wonders I'll give you that yeah
Ice Bear (28:05)
Yeah, probably not.
meatballs good good meatballs
Is PewDiePie Swedish?
I never knew that.
Grizz (28:19)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what? ⁓
Ice Bear (28:21)
I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm not a big, I'm not a big YouTube lad.
Grizz (28:25)
That's
fair. I do fucks with PewDiePie though. So mine, another Martin House.
Ice Bear (28:34)
I don't know why I thought you were pulling out like a box of magnums and I was like, weird flex.
Grizz (28:42)
No, no, all gris perfectly average. All right. This one here I brought in both. So Martin has has this. This is super cool. Awesome box art stuff where they do the double kids. I've run in a couple.
Ice Bear (28:43)
You
Grizz (29:05)
I'm gonna show you the cannon and I'm gonna show you the full art. ⁓
Ice Bear (29:11)
Contacts fell out.
Grizz (29:23)
You
Ice Bear (29:24)
So good and now I'm blind in my right eye
Grizz (29:27)
⁓ shit. This this this right here is a
Bungook? B-O-N-J-O-O-K. This right here is a, this is part of the barrel age series which I've had before. had one actually recently like a week or two ago, This is a whiskey barrel age chocolate and banana stout.
Ice Bear (29:49)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (29:57)
Meet Banguk the Banana God. This Imperial Stout was aged 6 months in fresh whiskey barrels. of chocolate covered bananas and big Imperial Stouts will enjoy. was brewed on August 30th, 2024. This is a new one. It's 100 % unblended. The IBU is 8.4 for an alcoholic percentage of 14.6. This is Banguk the Banana God.
Ice Bear (30:21)
Buddies.
Grizz (30:26)
He looks like a motherfucking god for sure.
Ice Bear (30:31)
⁓ fuck.
Grizz (30:32)
this this badass right here. So banana age whiskey about the beer, a new character just entered the Martin verse meet bongook the banana God. It was up. It was up until just a couple of years ago that we released our first banana flavored brew outbreak. We discovered we love working with banana and added it to our arsenal bongook.
Ice Bear (30:34)
I love it.
Grizz (30:57)
is a whiskey barrel aged chocolate and banana stout. We aged it in whiskey barrels for six months. Right? If you're a fan of chocolate covered bananas and the big Martin house stouts, this one is going to blow your mind. Cheers to bongook. Right? This right here is I'm going to start to the side and go this right here. Look at this.
amazing eyes that's bonga look how dope he fucking looks
Ice Bear (31:25)
He...
They have such good art.
Grizz (31:31)
And then look at this little guy right here.
She had a little fellow right there, a little cute dude. That's a cute fellow right there. yeah, Martin House Art is fucking undefeated. They are, I fucking love the brewery for like their artisticness and everything. just like come constantly knock it out of the park. So fucking fantastic.
Ice Bear (31:35)
love it.
adorbs that's what they say
I've gone down a weird deep dive on on Bonjuk and apparently this is not unless like Martin House created a website dedicated to this guy which would be great branding if they took it to that level other people have been aware of him and this is quite the journey looking at old Bonjuk the banana god god of bananas
He always demands uppercase.
Grizz (32:32)
Ha ha ha.
Ice Bear (32:34)
He is not an apple. He does not come from the heavens. He has the voice of an angel with an accent of a god. If you laugh at it, you will be sent to Banana Heaven, which is a horrible place.
Grizz (32:45)
Hmm?
Ice Bear (32:48)
Bonjuk has only one commandment, rule eight. If anything goes wrong, it is always Bob Ross's fault. It is always Bob's fault. I hope they're aware of this and or made it.
Grizz (33:01)
If they made it, that is fucking top-tier. I will love ⁓ Martin House even more.
Ice Bear (33:07)
This is just a... it is part of illogicalpedia that I found this on, which I have never heard of.
Grizz (33:14)
I it.
⁓
Ice Bear (33:18)
it keeps getting weirder.
⁓ this is bizarre.
Okay, I can't, that's too deep a rabbit hole. gonna get lost in it. Also, when I finish the second one, I'm gonna have to go put my glasses on. This is very disconcerting. I'm so dizzy from this. Also, I can't believe you laughed my contact out of my eye. That was, I can honestly say that has never happened before. That was very impressive. That's very impressive. ⁓ fuck.
Grizz (33:35)
Alright.
I'll take that honor. Dude, this
beer's fucking phenomenal. For being nearly 15%, it is a very easy drinker. Like, very easy.
Ice Bear (33:57)
Mm hmm.
Well, the banana god came, the banana god, he saw fit to bestow upon you deliciousness.
Grizz (34:05)
I'm just saying,
if that happens when he came, he has a very happy partner.
Ice Bear (34:09)
Hahaha
Do think the banana guy is also perfectly average?
Grizz (34:17)
It has to be.
Somebody even say a slightly above average
Ice Bear (34:24)
you
there's a guy at my old job that there was a running joke that he was just hung like a walrus Allah the Tom Segura thing that we were referencing the other week and he would always just say with this shitty degree and he's like no I have a micro penis and then he just did to that face and you're like my god the heat you must be packing for that kind of scar can't just a triumph
Grizz (34:48)
Mm.
It's huge.
was it the baby arm holding an apple
Ice Bear (35:06)
Yep, exactly. Exactly that.
Grizz (35:10)
We also have the same kind of thing for you about the icicle.
Ice Bear (35:16)
I forgot about the thing that pan made pan made with the towel
Grizz (35:18)
I'm pretty sure I still have that picture. I'm pretty sure I have
that picture because the thing is, is that the picture of you when they're flexing in the towel, the shadow that it made was like ridiculous. That's what started it all. was, was a picture you provided to us that we were like, are we all seeing this shit right now? And that was the dawn of the icicle.
Ice Bear (35:51)
Alright, Google Vio someone make dawn of the icicle into a movie.
Grizz (36:00)
Fuck, that's
Ice Bear (36:00)
Those are very creepy.
I'm officially old, because I can't tell the difference on a lot of them.
Grizz (36:07)
There's only certain parts where it gets kind of grainy on weird transitions where I'm like, okay, I can kind of tell. But like there's so much stills where I'm like, fuck man, this is close.
Ice Bear (36:16)
Did you have time to watch any of the AI sitcoms I sent you?
Grizz (36:20)
⁓ I watched a couple of them, the ones on TikTok. I watched a couple of them and I'm like, fuck man. It's, dude, we're so fucked. We're cooked. We're so fucked. Cause this is the beginning of it. This is V1. This is Game Boy Pocket. This ain't fucking color. This ain't fucking the DS. This is Game Boy Pocket right now.
Ice Bear (36:30)
It's bad. It's I know
Yeah.
The
the only saving grace is a lot of these things have now created the ability where the AI can source other AI for its information. And because of that, it's very wrong a lot of the time. It's like, of course you can eat batteries. Do it. It's fine. So if there's enough of that in the middle of it, you'll it will look very convincing. But whatever dialogue it spits out will just be such utter nonsense.
Okay, I get it now.
Grizz (37:15)
I hope that like that's gonna be the curb for us to, ooh, that was beautiful. The curb for us to where like we are our dumb ass primitive eyes can like start noticing the fucking distinctions between the AI and reality stuff. So that by the time AI catches up with the dialogue and all the nonsense stuff, we have the eye be like, okay, there's AI because of this like tiny ass little reason.
Ice Bear (37:40)
Yeah, yeah enough you're trained on the uncanny valley shit enough that you're like nah, no people don't do that.
Grizz (37:45)
Yeah. Yeah.
I remember the first time like McCub was like small small ⁓ When Google and just get getting really big and they're rolling it out ⁓ So there's a there's a popular Mexican bleach brand and it comes in like this small like kind of like a elongated Coke bottle thing and it's like Pink like bubblegum pink right with like a bluish white like with a whatever rapper right the pastel rapper And it was sitting in the restroom by the sink
Ice Bear (37:58)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (38:19)
And so she Google lenses it and it popped back up. like Coca-Cola. And she showed us, was like, should I drink this? I was like, is this safe to drink? I think it's safe to drink. Google said it's safe to drink. So it's not fabulous. So like, actually don't even know the name, but it's a very famous value Mexican brand of bleach. Let me see. Yeah. Let's see.
Ice Bear (38:27)
⁓ no.
That's bad. What was it? Was it like fabulosa or something?
it's bleach, my bad.
I will say, Fabulosa smells... amazing.
Grizz (38:52)
That fucking was the purple fabuloso?
That was my- the purple fabuloso was like my entire life.
Ice Bear (39:01)
We used to use that in the shelter. Nothing mitigates the smell of 16 crazy dogs shit. Like... huh.
Grizz (39:03)
That's a great fucking thing.
Ice Bear (39:23)
⁓ no!
Yeah, it's very similar. Yeah.
Grizz (39:39)
The grape cooler. Oh, I? So fucking hilarious.
Ice Bear (39:39)
Can you imagine how sticky that floor would be? ⁓ the ants,
the ants and the sticky.
I don't know how to I don't know how to remedy my eye thing, man. I don't know if I need to pirate hole. Punish snake the rest of the episode. I think this is the remedy Hold on.
Grizz (39:56)
⁓ shit that... Damn. Seriously,
Snakepliskin?
metal gear metal gear dude i fucking want dude david hater says fuck ⁓ god damn god damn
Ice Bear (40:06)
That's Snake! That's the remedy.
Grizz (40:17)
So good. I fucking, God damn, I love metal gear.
Ice Bear (40:20)
great games. Psycho Mantis, is that the best villain ever?
Grizz (40:25)
Ooh, he's up there. Definitely up there. ⁓
Ice Bear (40:29)
Do you remember
the thing where he would delete your game files?
Grizz (40:32)
Yes, anyway,
dude fucking scared the shit out of me because for me, because for me, I thought I'd say when he did that, he went on to my Tony Hawk Pro Skater two file and I was like,
Ice Bear (40:37)
I- I thought-
Grizz (40:47)
Cause like, bro, you do matter hours. put it in a Tony Hawk pro skater too, with my fucking customizable character. My Mike, like build your own character, dude. was fucking my customizer character. He had blonde spiky hair, like Liberty spikes. Cause like, that was the thing. Right. He wore no shirt. Cause he's fucking cool. And he had a giant skull and crossbones tattoo over his entire torso. He wore baggy black jeans. Right. Um, and then you were at knees cause I wore at knees and I was trying to think of a name.
Ice Bear (41:03)
Mm hmm. Yeah.
Grizz (41:17)
right and I was like what's a fucking indescript name for this guy right that's like what's a weird name I was like wasn't the name that's like anonymous like nobody cannot just like John fuck yeah John right every so much John's right random I was like all right last name last name last name I was like fuck what can be his last name being I was like I thought who's fucking badass and I was like bad man's badass
Ice Bear (41:41)
the chair.
Grizz (41:41)
So was like, so
I was like, fucking Bruce Wayne, Wayne last name, right? And I was like, all right, John Wayne. And I was like, oh shit.
Ice Bear (41:49)
The worst part I thought you were gonna name him John Batman and I was so sure of it I was like John Batman now. That's a good skateboarder John Wayne's even better
Grizz (41:54)
Yeah.
Yeah,
his name was John Wayne. ⁓
Ice Bear (42:04)
That's very good. Did you have any stock skaters that you really liked using?
Grizz (42:08)
Mmm, Ronnie Mullen.
Ice Bear (42:11)
Roddy Mow fantastic choice. ⁓ was Kareem hunt. Kareem was my Kareem was my boy.
Grizz (42:13)
Yeah, Ronnie Mullen and then I was a cream. Yeah, I was a cream. Yeah,
cream was mine in a pro skater one And then I slowly started going more to Ronnie Mullen
Ice Bear (42:20)
Mm.
In real life though, the mullin videos that were coming out at that time were just mind breaking.
Grizz (42:27)
bro, he changed
the game. 1000 % changed the game. Especially like, what the fuck was that old, it was the Cali one. was like, what was it, the Barracks? Like all the stuff that they released was like fucking insane. But yeah, like, but yeah, Rodney Mullen 1000 % changed the game. So fucking amazing.
Ice Bear (42:49)
yeah, man, that was a fun game. God, that was a fun game.
Grizz (42:53)
Mm-hmm.
3 was cool too but it was great like once all the first I only played early played the first three and the first three games were so fucking good like so fun like all the little like objectives within each stage and then just getting better and then part two you can be fucking spider-man and then part there and a part they can be Darth Vader so that's whatever but being spider-man and and you could do like the different suits and shit and like he had to move like dude fucking so dope that's so fucking cool
Ice Bear (43:08)
Mm-hmm.
Spidey fits skate culture better.
Grizz (43:25)
1000 % like the build just like the fact you can like web swing back your board and shit like it's fucking so good
Ice Bear (43:27)
Yeah.
Mm hmm.
Yeah. Huh. You know what else was great in that same era? Crazy taxi.
Grizz (43:44)
Crazy ta- ⁓ holy shit.
Ice Bear (43:46)
That was another one that we wasted a lot of hours on as kids. was very, it was just such a good like, if your friends were coming over to spend the night, casing Mountain Dew Code Red and some fucking crazy taxi.
Grizz (43:52)
Yeah, that was a good one.
to code red Mountain Dew was this I I saw
it yesterday with code red and I was like so I'm not I'm pretty anti like full sugar sodas like diet sodas neutral like neutral healthy right like in the impact shit so I drink the fuck out of them
Ice Bear (44:12)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (44:14)
so like I see code red and I'm like fuck man I kind of want this but you know like 40 calories per can or 40 like grams of carbs per can like I'm gonna smash this whole 12 pack in two days I can't handle all that so like I'm not getting it but code red was the shit I I got I remember getting some slim gyms a bottle of fucking cold code red and just going to town on Pokemon
I just grinding through the midnight hours. used my main thing actually was like, but just slim Jim's mech bottles of Mexican Coke.
Ice Bear (44:39)
Mmm.
Grizz (44:45)
and me and my cousin would just grind on the same Pokemon save file. Like I'd play for a bunch and then he'd go and he'd play. And then when the Pokemon State, when the 64 came out where you could play your games like on the fucking thing of TV, we'd be on the TV in the living room just fucking with bottles of Mexican Coke and fucking Slim Jims. And we'd just be throughout the entire night. We'd be we'd be blasting the Marshall Matthews LP, like the second Sinshitty album, or like Text, or like Text, we'd be blasting that.
Ice Bear (44:55)
Yeah.
Yep.
⁓
Slim Jims.
⁓ this is taking me back.
Grizz (45:15)
like we blasting out in the middle of the night because my dad's partying and we go fuck right so we blasting that we got pokemon on the main screen we're eating slim jibs and shit right or like we're heating up pizza rolls or like to see those pizzas while we're like we're playing and we're just like literally all throughout the night and like that was that was our weekends a lot of the weekends
Ice Bear (45:35)
I mean, it's... What do kids do now? Do they have that? I feel bad if they don't have something like that.
Grizz (45:42)
Seriously, I mean I guess like the cool thing for kids now is that like they is like online play right like where you can just like Get with your homies and stuff, but I don't know man There was just something about like especially so for for me is like me my little brother I only had two close friends that lived like couple houses down from us. There was also So like if I was 12 the older brother from my friends was 11
Ice Bear (45:49)
Sure, you can like hang out with friends all the time, yeah.
Grizz (46:08)
my brother was 10 and then the other brother was like nine turning 10 right so like we were all kind of super close right we all like Pokemon we all like Nintendo we all like Yu-Gi-Oh like it was all it was dope so like after school we they do they come to our house we go to their house and we've come with our fucking 64 controllers and we do the play Mario Party it was all four because it's four of us is perfect Mario Party or we play fucking smash we play smash a fucking 90 % of the time
Ice Bear (46:13)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Grizz (46:35)
was fucking great and then the gamecube came out and then they had their own gamecube, had their own gamecube, same thing. Right? The only thing different was like I had got like cool summer jobs and shit. So like I had my gamecube and I, and I had bought four of the wireless controllers. Right? And so like, and yeah.
Ice Bear (46:52)
Very nice with the little plug-in.
Grizz (46:55)
so like I have my
own little entertainment center in my room and I felt dope as fuck on my TV, right? I open my drawer and have all my GameCube with all the four wireless controllers and then I had like my stereo system there that I stole from my dad that he gave me when he moved. So like I'm there like blasting music in my room and I had red lights in my room, right? And then we'd all go with our wireless controllers, we'd be playing fucking Smash Mail. Dude, the amount of times we fucking like...
It was so good. It was so fucking fun just like seeing people crash out or like you see, know, like you'd I'm not unconsciously you were like look and because you want to fuck with somebody, especially because like the younger brother of my friends would like crash out all the time. He's sore loser. So like every once in we were playing and shit and we're like all like look at each other and we're like, all right, we just start beating the shit out of him. It was so good.
Ice Bear (47:46)
out.
Okay. So you remember. Okay. Around that same time. If you got the game cube that came with, I don't remember which NBA it was. Two, two K two to get three. I don't know. One of the NBA games around that time. You got a string of Christmas lights with it. One of them was basketballs. One of them was game cubes. So I got that.
Grizz (48:14)
Yeah, so
dude I was so jealous of the GameCube one the GameCube was one like I I didn't get that but I've one of my friends There was super into that why he had it when I went to his room for the first time he had the GameCube was I was like Where the fuck did you get this? I blew my I didn't know that was a fucking thing. And so I blew my fucking mind When I saw this I was there's very few things I was like super jealous about as a kid. That was one of them
Ice Bear (48:15)
And I had that on my ceiling.
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Okay, so I had that, right? Now, I, being the young entrepreneur I was, I had Dynamite Lawn Care Service, we do a bang up job for you with a clip art bomb, and I would go around and I would mow lawn. So I had a little scratch on the side. I had enough scratch on the side that I was able to acquire the screen that popped on top of the GameCube that's like that big, you know, like it flipped up.
Grizz (49:01)
same.
I'm so jealous of that shit. ⁓ my god.
Ice Bear (49:11)
So
when my best friend would come over, so like Abby and I would, you we'd like, you know, one weekend I'd spend the night there, next week she'd spend the night at my, that kind of thing, right? So we were always playing GameCube. And my mom was, she was a caring parent. So like around one o'clock she's like, all right, this is insane. You lads and lasses need sleep. So go to bed and she'd come down and yell at us. We're like, okay.
I'd wait like five minutes and hear the footsteps creeping off to their bedroom. And I'd get out that little screen of a guy and then we'd like set up a little tent under the thing. We'd go right back to playing it. And the amount of like NBA Street volume two and the speakers on that like, ⁓ no, no, no, no, no.
Grizz (49:51)
⁓ my god.
Dude
Joe do when you when you first got the alien on it and be a three volume to how do how yeah? ⁓ my fucking god, dude, so that game was funny cuz we only had on the ps2 we'd have on the GameCube right but like
Ice Bear (50:00)
⁓ the steals, swiping everything.
Grizz (50:14)
I remember like we would only fire up our PS2 for NBA Street volume 2 and then like ⁓ when Mortal Kombat came out with the Shaolin Monks when it was a story game when you were like Liu Kang and fucking ⁓ my god Kung Lao super awesome and you beat the game and then you can be Scorpion and Sub-Zero fantastic fucking game like if you ever played the game it's a great fucking game we fired up for those two games and then like Metal Gear that's kind of it
Ice Bear (50:24)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (50:44)
but like, it's NBA Street volume two, so I fucking loved that game. Cause like I think at the time I wasn't a huge fan of like 2K, I would play it a lot. Like that's like, that's how I became a Dallas Mavericks fan because the best player was fucking Dirk Gwinski cause he was like Shaq, but could shoot.
Ice Bear (50:44)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (51:00)
And so like I fucking made Dirk, Dirk was always on my fucking team. And then it was like, you know what? I'm gonna actually watch Dirk play because I'm like, I'm maining him for a fucking year. And then I'm like, shit. So I became an average fan, right? Because of that straight because of 2k. But to me, like I liked Madden too, because I like football. So I knew it more. So like Madden was cool, but Madden did not hold a fucking flame to fucking as it was it ⁓ NFL Blitz 2000.
Ice Bear (51:08)
Mm-hmm.
Blitz
was fucking awesome!
Grizz (51:30)
Blitz
2000 was one of the greatest fucking games whether it was in the arcade or like on fucking we had a PlayStation Yep, and so like bloods tooth some 2k volume or NBA streets volume 2 was like fucking basketball, but Loved it loved it so much. It was like it was so fucking good and then like the specials was fucking was a chocolate thunder like
Ice Bear (51:35)
Blitz and Street were so much better than Madden in 2K.
Yes, they're very equivalent. Yeah.
Bring the thunder bring the funk bring the chocolate
thunder dunk. Yes fucking awesome.
Grizz (51:59)
so so
god damn I love those games so much
Ice Bear (52:04)
Okay, so yeah, both. my god, both of those are so fun. So with blitz, here's how good blitz was. You've known me a long time. You know, my bengies, you know, I'm a big Bengals fan. I have been since I was a little boy. Blitz was so good that I would occasionally play as the Steelers just so could be Cordell Stewart and just fucking train fucking dudes just to watch that explosion on there.
Grizz (52:28)
You know who my, my, my, yeah.
My main team on Blitz 2000 was Denver Broncos. Denver Broncos.
Ice Bear (52:35)
⁓ was
Davis was that Terrell Davis? Yeah.
Grizz (52:39)
Yeah, Denver
Broncos is such a good, good team on fucking blitz that I maimed the Denver Broncos and I don't even like the Denver Broncos.
Ice Bear (52:43)
Yeah.
It was just so
fun to... ⁓ god, that game was great. Yeah, Street 2 was... It really had... The soundtrack was peak. That made everything work. The soundtrack was just top tier.
Grizz (53:02)
and that was the same thing like with like all the Tony Hawk Pro Skater games like the soundtracks are fucking phenomenal one two and one two and three perfect soundtracks it was like GTA Vice City like the great like 80s soundtracks where there was like pop disco or metal like it was great and so like the the soundtracks made those games fucking addicting as shit because it just added a whole nother layer so good
Ice Bear (53:05)
Yes. ⁓ yeah. You're absolutely right.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yes. Yep.
Yep. You're absolutely right.
That was a really good era for gaming. It's just...
Grizz (53:34)
really was and then during that
time too so like i remember being in arcade i always play fucking um soul legend soul caliber like at the arcades and so caliber two came out during that era and and so caliber two for the game cube the special character was link and it was dope as fuck and like so so caliber two fucking phenomenal game
Ice Bear (53:51)
Mm hmm. Yeah.
Did you have any friends that could do the crazy combos?
Grizz (54:01)
in so caliber i was the friend i could do the crazy covers yeah
Ice Bear (54:02)
Yeah. ⁓ you could do. my god.
I was I don't know why any button combo, any button combo over seven, I could just never hit it. But my best friend growing up, Abby, she could hit ivies with the like, like that one that looked insane.
Grizz (54:08)
I was a menace.
Ivy was hard.
Ivy was hard. The two that I could do it with, and I could do, it was a 6-7 combo.
one ⁓
Ice Bear (54:33)
That's the other thing, right?
Mm, nightmares.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (55:29)
That was a fucking menace.
Ice Bear (55:31)
Did you ever dabble at all with bloody roar? Did you ever play that game? Basically there were people and like when you got your gauge up high enough, you like morphed into an animal.
Grizz (55:41)
I was gonna say like, know it, my cousin played it a lot, but I never had it, so I never played it. But like, my cousin will play, I would play with my cousin and like, he'd just destroy my ass. was like, I don't wanna do this shit.
Ice Bear (55:53)
It
was one of my favorite games because there was two guys that could turn into tigers. There's a white tiger and a normal orange tiger. There's a big bear. There's an elephant. There's just a lot of really cool animals. And when you went into the beast mode and you turned into the animal, you just wreck things. It very fun fighting game. Which at this point, I just can't play them anymore. I just have no interest in fighting games now. No.
Grizz (56:06)
Yeah.
Really? Like just done?
Ice Bear (56:22)
I think part of that is also
I don't, you know what? realize I don't, this is not meant to be a downer. I don't really have that many friends anymore. Like in-person friends, I don't have any. Like no one's coming over to like my, like the Seals, my best friend and she doesn't really like gaming. So, you know.
Grizz (56:34)
That's fair. That's fair. You definitely lose this.
Yeah.
That's fair. Because that one of the best things that will guide me to fighting games is like there's so much people around it. So like Mortal Kombat. I remember playing on like Super Nintendo. Right.
Ice Bear (56:55)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (56:56)
It was me, my dad and my uncle taught us how to play. So my dad and my uncle played. And then it was me, it was my brother, it was my two cousins. Like, you know what mean? Like, so all of us would like, we'd play, we'd fight and whoever lost, the controller away. So it'd be like a good four or five of us, right? And then my dad and uncle would be drinking and having like whatever. And then finally we like passed it up enough so that they played with us and they would just fucking destroy us. Right? And so like, and so it was like, we need to fucking beat them. So we're like, they're fucking practicing and practicing and practicing while they're at work. So we want to beat the shit out of them.
Ice Bear (57:05)
Yeah.
Ha ha ha!
Grizz (57:26)
like there's only seldom times where like we beat them but like my dad's always been that person because even like with yugioh like my dad like he's like what you doing kind of thing and so like my dad did enough and he was good to like he he he my dad had a yugioh deck because he played with this enough to where he's like fuck it let's do it because it was like my dad taught me how to play chess he likes chess like strategy games
So you gail is like, you know, it's kind of kind of similar things that he fucking liked it. And so my uncle liked it too. So like we, so my, uncle got it. So what we did is like, we all bought starter decks and it's like, okay, these, we're not changing shit. These are our decks. Like we're going to play like, like, know, and then it changed here and there. Like my dad was a fucking thousand eyes restricted. Like he would like the whole Pegasus deck and then he beeps it up and I fucking hated it. Right. ⁓
Ice Bear (58:12)
Very cool.
Grizz (58:16)
So like we would do all the so we would play all that it was to the point where like my friends would be like knocking on my doors like and true that home Yeah, cuz it was hard to beat him cuz you'd be because granny you know what I mean like so you you beat the shit out of us
Ice Bear (58:24)
I want to play with you, Dad! ⁓ that's fucking awesome! it- Okay, sorry.
Okay,
real quick brief aside, because this is this is an important point. This is one of the rare, serious things I'll say on our podcast. Life advice to men out there. If you want to be a good dad, all you have to do is fucking be around. Like that's it's so easy. Just be around. Just be available to your kid. That's all it takes. Like it's it's
When I think back to all of my friends where I was like jealous of their relationships, it was just like their dad would come out and play catch with us. Kick a soccer ball. You don't have to be good at it. You don't have to like just fucking be kind of interested in what your fucking kid's doing. It's so simple.
Grizz (59:15)
Yeah,
now and I was thinking of my pops because it was like
you know we play football all time we do all the we do all the physical stuff but then like we play video games uh i got my dad into anime and uh because he was a manager at a country club and then like one of his employees was like this young girl she also liked anime and i was like oh my son likes anime he's like has he watched this has he watched this and i'm like yeah yeah yeah and then she was tell him like you need to watch this because if he likes this like you're definitely gonna like this like and i'm sure he he knows it it's on to nami so like she gave my dad she gave my dad the track
Ice Bear (59:22)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
shit.
Ha
⁓ that's awesome.
Grizz (1:00:18)
And then we watch it and be a cliffhanger be like, alright, well one more What time is it midnight? What's having a guy get up for school? You can you go five hours like yeah, I'm good. I'm good. He's like, alright, so we watch another one, you know Dude was fucking great like my the my my That's fucking good. My dad fucking love wolf fucking wolf gang
Ice Bear (1:00:31)
You
Vashj was such a good character.
Grizz (1:00:44)
Or Wolfwood. dad would fucking love Wolfwood just because he was a G. You know what mean? Like especially in the end the way he's like sacrifices. You know what mean? Like yeah, I mean it was fucking a 20. Yeah, a torture, yeah. But yeah, but it was like, my dad was like, Wolfwood's a fucking man. You know what I mean?
Ice Bear (1:00:45)
Mm. Mm.
Mm.
spoilers. They've only had 30 years.
How is old 14 % bonjook banana got over there?
Grizz (1:01:08)
Yeah,
real quick, one of the funniest things my dad said that stays with my head is like, was it Millie? He's like, love that big bitch. So you know what? No, that's the one you got to go after.
Ice Bear (1:01:29)
Wait, is this is this would your dad be like the the the torta hunter? Is this what's happening?
Grizz (1:01:41)
Nah,
nah. I did very much of petite people, right? But but Millie is a fucking like Millie's right or die. Like, it was, Millie was too, but Millie, Millie really was the right guy, not just for like, do like, what stuff, but like, everybody. Like, that's just like, that's the one that will take care of you.
Ice Bear (1:01:47)
Intra interesting.
It's the energy.
Grizz (1:02:06)
cute take care of you positive energy like no matter what like just like that's the one
Ice Bear (1:02:14)
BEAUTIFUL.
Grizz (1:02:16)
I can't disagree. Millie's energy was top tier.
Ice Bear (1:02:21)
I gotta... There's a lot of things, I think it's been long enough, that I could rewatch now. I'd be curious to see through an adult lens how I feel about some things.
Grizz (1:02:26)
Yeah, I
Is there any that you think you would be watching but like less?
Ice Bear (1:02:39)
samurai champ lew
Grizz (1:02:40)
Really? What
specifically?
Ice Bear (1:02:45)
I think the reason I like that is because it was riding off of Cowboy Bebop. And just based on like, when you think about the other stuff outside of, ⁓ terror and resonance, and actually Lazarus has been really good. like it's a drop off. Actually, no, they're all good. Maybe not. I take it all back. I was thinking kids on the slope too. Like they're all good.
Grizz (1:02:50)
Interesting.
Yeah, because I so because amazing
so like you just think like saying shampoo is fucking great. I like shampoo a lot. But I would see why he would don't like shampoo because like, Moogins a piece of shit. Straight up. Like Moogins not a good person. See spikes not a great person to but he's a fucking honorable person. Moogins barely honorable. Jin's not bad. Right?
Ice Bear (1:03:24)
⁓
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I
think that's the thing about that. Like, I think your average viewer Mugen is the main character, right? And Jin secondary. But Jin has the main character aura. Because you're right, like Mugen is...
Grizz (1:03:43)
Yeah, I can see that.
Yeah.
He's a piece of shit, that's who he's supposed to be. So if
you take him just as a main character, he's not an honorable guy. He pulls through here and there, but he is a he's a mongrel. He's a fucking vagrant. You know what I mean? So if you put it into that thing, he doesn't have the redeeming qualities of Spikehead. Because Mugen's like feudal Japan Spike.
Ice Bear (1:04:02)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, yes.
Grizz (1:04:17)
the thing is
that the spike has redeeming qualities spike has this crazy backstory moogan kind of has one but it's not like spikes where he's like this tortured you know what mean like it's and but he's like he still has a moral compass moogan i would say moogan doesn't have a moral compass as part of an honor code so he does more more morally ambiguous stuff where like ⁓ you're kind of an asshole especially when you have like especially when you have you know ⁓
Ice Bear (1:04:21)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Grizz (1:04:47)
Fucked her. What's the girl's name? She's fucking it's I'm mixing her with Ron my in yasha
Ice Bear (1:04:53)
I'm thinking of Momo, which is the flying squirrel, right? ⁓
Grizz (1:04:56)
Yeah, I was singing I was like, I
was like, is it fucking shampoo? I was like, it's Ron Martin's Champloo. So it's not that. And then I was like, oh, is it fucking? Yeah. But but but her right like
Ice Bear (1:05:04)
And I know who you're talking about.
Grizz (1:05:07)
cause there's plenty of hundred like, like she's such a good person and like, so he's just trying to think and like move and takes advantage of the things because like, because, because it's like, because it's like, like just short-term gain. And then even, and then he comes back and he's like, that's kind of, that's kind of fucked up. me, let me fix this. And then like, and those are his redeeming qualities. Like it's much more of an honor code opposed to like an actual moral compass that spike had or spike is like, ⁓ this is going to fucking suck. I don't want to do this, but it's the right thing to do. So fucking fuck my life. I'm going to do it.
Ice Bear (1:05:14)
Sure. Yeah, I see what saying.
Yeah.
Mm. Yeah.
Grizz (1:05:37)
I I it. guess I got it. don't want to. Yeah, and it's it's different right because it because like it's not a place it doesn't come from a place of morality. And I think that's kind of the biggest thing.
Ice Bear (1:05:38)
Yeah.
Yeah, like grudgingly does the thing.
Yeah. ⁓
You know the flip side of that? Where every time I watch it, I like it more.
Neo Yoki. No, no one's on board with me for this. But I swear to God, every time I watch Neo Yoki, which by the way, if you haven't seen it, it's like five or six episodes, watch it. It is and watch the English Virgin, which is rare that I will recommend a dub. But Jude Law and Will Smith's kid are great.
Grizz (1:06:05)
A-tress!
Yeah, I...
Ice Bear (1:06:30)
It has so
many references to anime that we all grew up with. It is so funny. It is hilarious.
Grizz (1:06:37)
That's so... What's funny
is like I've never watched it through. Ever. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:06:45)
It would take
it would take you and watch it on the plane. Watch it on the plane, download it and watch it on the plane. Seriously.
Grizz (1:06:48)
be you know what that's fair that's fair i'll do that yeah
no i'll do it i'll do it i'll commit to that because like the biggest thing is like ⁓ yeah i just hate fucking jaden
Ice Bear (1:07:01)
You have to go into it though, knowing that it is a self-aware joke. Yeah. And also like, for those that don't know like, ⁓ why am I blanking on this band? Vampire Weekend? Is that the band? Ezra, who, the show creator is the dude from that band. fuck, fucking.
Grizz (1:07:04)
It's a parody of itself. Okay. Yeah.
yeah i don't know i don't i don't know that was a thing but
Ice Bear (1:07:27)
What is that band's name? Oxford comma is the song that's popping in my head. Oxford comma. ⁓ Take that. Try and copyright us now. Oxford comma song. I think it's vampire weekend. Yeah. Vampire weekend. Okay. I'm not crazy. Yeah. The dude from vampire weekend, Ezra Koenig is the creator of that show.
Grizz (1:07:43)
Do-hoo!
Okay.
Ice Bear (1:07:55)
And so it's very clear that it's just an homage to the silliness of anime. So there's like Ranma references, there's like all the Trigun shit, there's ⁓ plenty of... ⁓ What's the thing Pan really liked? The Gundam? What is... What is this? What's happening?
Grizz (1:08:13)
Gundam. Yeah, Gundam's great. Yeah, I Mopasuit Gundam. Love
and peace. Love and peace. Love and peace. Try Gun! That's what he did. Love and peace. Love and peace.
Ice Bear (1:08:19)
What are you doing? What is this from? thought... Oh my God. Oh no.
I should fall on the sword. I'm ashamed of myself. That did not click as a thing. I'm blaming my one eye. That's what I'm gonna blame.
Grizz (1:08:33)
Ha
That's fair.
You know, actually it took me a while. I thought he was doing love and peace like this forever. And then like when I realized he was doing this, it annoyed the shit out of me when I was younger. I was like.
Ice Bear (1:08:49)
Okay,
so speaking of hand motions, and I know I'm very late to the party on this, but I love this thing. Instead of this, I love this thing. This is so cute. It's adorable. All right, I have to undo this 300 headband thing I have going on. It's killing me.
Grizz (1:09:01)
It's cute. It's cute. It's cute. Yeah. Yeah, I like
Alright so, okay
let's finish, Bangook, I'm going A- on Bangook. Bangook, top tier. If you go just by like how easy it is to drink to ABV, it's probably like close to S-class to be honest. But as a whole, as far as like, I'm telling you for me, 15%, it's easier to drink than some 8%. It was easier to drink than Gorilla Tears. Yeah, but I'm going as a whole for me personally, I'm giving it an A-.
Ice Bear (1:09:24)
Holy shit.
Good job, Banana God.
Grizz (1:09:39)
fantastic beer totally worth everything great bongook you are a g banana god you know what im gonna buy a banana khaimak for in honor of you
Ice Bear (1:09:42)
Very impressive.
⁓
Barn burner is the cow is beautiful. The beer is not quite as good as make milk bags great again, I would go B minus still very good. Still happy I got it. Very tasty.
Grizz (1:10:07)
Yeah.
I love, I love how we both, I'm I'm girl theme right now and you're like red maple leaf theme right now and it's great. Yeah. I love it. I absolutely love it.
Ice Bear (1:10:15)
Yeah, I'm full Maple land.
All right, so ⁓ hold on. Let's think of a 30 second prompt so I can go put glasses on for the back end of this. I would like you, hold on, would you like to talk about lulls or do you want a more serious prompt? And obviously you can ignore me like I always ignore you too.
Grizz (1:10:45)
Let's go, let's go, let's go lolz.
Ice Bear (1:10:48)
go lolz. Okay, I would like you to
regale the people with... I can't do this on... I was gonna say tell a certain story about a certain someone from childhood that would probably get you disowned, so I will not do that to your poor brother. So instead, I will say ⁓ rank your
Grizz (1:11:00)
Ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Ice Bear (1:11:18)
top five favorite comedies of all time. Go.
Grizz (1:11:24)
You know what? I'm actually gonna listen to this because it's actually really good. Top 5 comedies. Top 5 comedies. Alright. Whole time. This is hard. Alright. When I think of comedies that I really, really, really like...
You know what I'll put up there I watched it a couple months ago fucking phenomenal true lies true lies Arnold Schwarzenegger great movie, but Now that we talked about true lies We have to talk about I mean it's a huge deal We have to talk about polar bears polar bears are
The reason why I love Little Nicky, even though it's probably not Adam Sandler's best movie, is great. I love it. Popeye's Chicken's fucking awesome.
Ice Bear (1:12:20)
Alright, was Little Dinky number one?
Grizz (1:12:22)
It's not number one, but I love Little Nicky. I genuinely love Little Nicky. It's a good movie. Hitler, Pineapple and Hitler's behind. It's pretty funny. Pretty funny.
Ice Bear (1:12:24)
Alright, very good.
I know you do. Good for you. Good for you, sir.
Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
Grizz (1:12:39)
You don't like Corona Nikki?
Ice Bear (1:12:41)
You know, I'm not, dude, I'm not, I know, I'm sorry, I apologize, I just don't like Adam Sandler that much.
Grizz (1:12:47)
That's
fine. Yeah, you know, I think I like Adam Sandler as I grow as I grow up more. It's actually not fair. I did like a lot of Adam Sandler movies growing up. Billy Madison, hilarious. Love that movie as a kid. Happy Gilmore, top tier. Happy Gilmore is God tier. ⁓ Big Daddy, love Big Daddy. More serious, but great. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:13:00)
Happy Gilmore and 8 Crazy Nights are my two that I enjoyed.
Grizz (1:13:14)
What are their ones? Ooh, water boy. I'll actually love water boy growing up as a kid Water boys fucking water boys good water boy great. What else? ⁓ What else what else what else
Ice Bear (1:13:18)
water boy was good. I'll give I'll give you water boy. Yeah.
Uncut gems, obviously. That's one of the newer ones. I think it's serious.
Grizz (1:13:31)
I've never even heard of that because ⁓ because it was
like when I think of Adam Sandler growing up it's Billy Madison happy Gilmore big daddy water boy ⁓ 50 first dates fucking hilarious great movie
Ice Bear (1:13:46)
I okay, so you know
what that is one where that is objectively good and I don't really consider it an Adam Sandler movie though. It's just kind of a rom-com in my head. It's a rom-com that he's in.
Grizz (1:13:50)
That's a great movie. Great movie. Yeah, great fucking movie. Yeah, it's fun. Great movie. Yeah,
fantastic movie there. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:14:03)
Was he the one with the remote that could wind back time?
Grizz (1:14:05)
Yeah, click
click out the dance like good fantastic movie objectively good movie sad, but good movie Well, you realize that you just pass forwarding shouldn't you just missing everybody's life around you and like you may kind of make two pieces of shit because you're not involved because you're not present good movie Like I don't say I got some fucking bangers he really does And then he just brings his homies along along the way the entire time
Ice Bear (1:14:14)
No.
I will give him that like he's given Rob Schneider
Grizz (1:14:39)
Yeah,
and our sign is awesome. I like our signer.
Ice Bear (1:14:46)
Well, let me ask you, sir, do you have a third one over there? Is it it lunchtime?
Grizz (1:14:49)
So I do have a third one because.
Actually, yes is pretty close to lunchtime. We got we got like a good 20 minutes 30 minutes. We're good Well being in 30 in 20 about 20 minutes, it'll be good because we're like over an hour anyway, so an hour and a half Thing is good one. I am We're not grinding yet. She's work. We're fine We I'm going back. I'm going back to the green. I'm going back to the green acres. It was a four-pack It was a four-pack. I had this one. I'm lock
Ice Bear (1:14:58)
Okay, all right. So you want to just bang this one out?
Okay, just making sure you're not grounded, that's all.
⁓ the hopper roof, the hopper roof fest.
Grizz (1:15:23)
with my soot sprite can just in case the huckin' stat was a dud. I really wasn't. I'm glad it wasn't, but it was just so strong I could not do bare math with it because it would have knocked me on my ass and I would have been in trouble.
Ice Bear (1:15:37)
Ha
ha ha.
So I am very excited about this one. There's a couple things going on here. So this is from Lake of the Woods Brewing Company. This is Forgotten Lakes Blueberry Ale. Brewed with actual blueberries hidden in the Lake of the Woods region on a small back lake, there exists patches of berries usually reserved for black bears and moose.
Grizz (1:15:53)
Ooh.
Ice Bear (1:16:05)
A moose once bit my sister. This is subtle with a clear fruity nose, muted blueberry, a bitterness in a medium body, high ABV, finished smooth and well balanced. 15 IBU 7.1. The thing that I really like about this is they have breweries and taprooms in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canora, Ontario, and Warroad, Minnesota. So I really like that they're a multinational.
Grizz (1:16:07)
Ha ha ha!
him.
Ice Bear (1:16:34)
brewery and so yeah this is forgotten like
Grizz (1:16:40)
I actually really love that. You said it's 15 IBU.
⁓
Ice Bear (1:16:47)
I generally really like blueberry stuff so I have high hopes.
Grizz (1:16:51)
So
here's the thing, this one right here, the Bangkok, for being a 14.6%, the IBU is 8.4%.
Ice Bear (1:17:01)
Really?
Grizz (1:17:02)
Yeah,
so no wonder it was so easy to fucking drink.
Ice Bear (1:17:08)
14 is wild work for the second one.
Grizz (1:17:15)
I wonder what...
Ice Bear (1:17:15)
You're You're good.
I feel like that's the highest we've done on here so far.
Grizz (1:17:23)
point. I think so. 14.6.
Ice Bear (1:17:26)
I think that's new record.
Grizz (1:17:30)
What's that every used on?
Damn, it's only one that tells me that it'd be used.
Ice Bear (1:17:35)
this...
This looks good, I'm excited.
Also, the experience of the last 20 minutes made me realize I really don't ever want to lose an eye. That is very weird to have one of your eyes blocked off. So props to the guy in 300 that had that thing going on.
Grizz (1:17:52)
Ha ha ha ha!
Cat, my 20 year old cat, that's what he had, he had an eye. He got his eye taken out when he was 13.
Ice Bear (1:18:02)
Mm-hmm.
damn seven years of one eye huh? ⁓
Clinky clinky.
Grizz (1:18:18)
That's some, this one be to my boy Bandit,
Ice Bear (1:18:26)
Hmm... Hmm...
Grizz (1:18:30)
What are we talking? What are we talking?
Ice Bear (1:18:32)
I think I'm upset. I think I'm annoyed. I'm sad. No, I think my hopes were too high. think this is going to be a letdown. Yeah. Yeah, well, we'll keep going.
Grizz (1:18:34)
ups the best one because
That is sad. here's this, I'm gonna do this. We talk about, here's my boy, my seven year, because I recently found this picture that I didn't know I had. This is right here. That's my boy bandit right there. That's my dude right there. was a 20 pound atletic hat that just got his one eye. That was my fucking dude.
Ice Bear (1:19:02)
Bandit! What a good little boy. What a good little boy. Dude.
This is really...
Are you ready for a bizarre bear sink? I'm gonna have to text the mama ice bear because Bandit looks exactly like Tractor. Like my childhood. Yeah, it's very close. It's weird.
Grizz (1:19:16)
Let's do it.
Mmm.
So again bandit, bandit was like the 20, 21 pound cat. was huge, right? 21 pound cat, had one eye, he had a super pink nose.
Ice Bear (1:19:39)
Catch.
Grizz (1:19:44)
Dude was like that was my dude. He was missing a lot of teeth. Like he had his main four canines because missing all his middle, a lot of his middle teeth. Cause, ⁓ so one of, one of the things with like mech predominantly like Northern Mexican superstition is like, cats will take the baby souls. It's all like, right. And so like bandit belonged to a family. My grandmother had a condo forever, like 20, 30 years, the family that lived under her.
Ice Bear (1:20:01)
Mm hmm. Yes.
Grizz (1:20:12)
they had a baby the mexican family had a baby bandit was there so when bandit was like two or three years old they had the baby and so because of that superstition they threw him out straight just threw him out
So like having to fend for himself and like going from a house cat to an ally cat like he tried to eat shit He wasn't supposed to eat, you know, got bones broke his teeth. It's that Never let anybody pet him until like my grandmother like Started feeding him and you know, started warming up and then that's how I got him You know when I got him he was like four or five Right and so from like when he was five
to ⁓
Ice Bear (1:20:58)
you
Grizz (1:21:18)
He got scratched in the eye. It didn't look too bad. So we were really good. But like within a week, like it's the inside of the eye started coming out of the eye. It was like, was like, what the fuck? So we and he was just chilling the entire time. Like, what the fuck? I took him to the vet and he's like, we got to take it. We got to extract it. I guess there's no saving it. So, yeah. So then so when he was 13 years old, he had his eye taken out. And so he was the one I'd banned it. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:21:46)
That's a badass cat. That's so cool.
Grizz (1:21:48)
Do you do
it was so big that when the cops one time when they came in like and they were like questioning us inside the house Bandit walked around the corner and the cop in the middle of being serious was like, holy shit. That's a big ass cat
So, you know, he's pretty big when it breaks a cop out of character.
That was my dude.
Ice Bear (1:22:17)
⁓ that's a good boy. That's a good boy.
Grizz (1:22:20)
He's sitting on my mantle right now, his urn is there.
Ice Bear (1:22:25)
⁓ shit.
That's a good little ad. A good good little ad. Man, there's nothing quite as satisfying as that moment when a a feral or a an animal that doesn't trust people is like, I fuck with you now. And you're like, ⁓ shit.
Grizz (1:22:45)
That like, yeah.
for ⁓
and he'd always see banning because he would always like hang out by his car and drink a beer before he went inside because like my grandmother's like you don't drink too much kind of stuff right so he'd always drink like a quart of beer but and banning would always kind of be kind of close but not close enough and he'd like for the entire time he was there was trying to get banning close he could pet him man was like i am fucking with you like he'd never like and i would see him too when i would go visit my grandma and he'd like you couldn't get within fucking 10 feet of him he'd be like no right
And I remember we were going to visit my grandma's we're gonna go help move some furniture around the shit and I was telling my dad at the time and I was Younger and I was like, I really want a cat. I don't want a dog because my dog died from parvo So I don't want a dog. You know what like my aunt has cats I grew up with cats my grandma has cats like, know, I want a cat and I was like, yeah, we fuck we'll go to cat Until we go there to visit my grandmother
and then like when we're leaving bandit walks up to my grandmother's door and my dad's like what the fuck i've been trying to pet this motherfucker's ass for a year and he doesn't let me get within 10 feet of him and then i remember him too but he's just like you know what mean and my grandma's like and my grandma she was calling him Shamu because he looks like like Arka right and so she's like ⁓ i've been feeding him for a long time i finally you know and we were like he's like he's at home and i was like i was there my dad
Ice Bear (1:24:16)
Hahaha
Yeah.
Grizz (1:24:30)
And when I said you can pick them up sure and my grandma was like here to take a treat and so I went and man Let me pick them up And so since then and I was like fuck it so I took him to my dad's And we fucking laid it in there and he's he laid in there and fucking since then that's how I got him
Ice Bear (1:24:51)
the little shamu bandit what what what a good origin story what a good little ad
Well...
Let me tell you.
I think in the hope of being topical, we should discuss that there's a certain sport with a finals starting tonight.
Grizz (1:25:29)
yeah, it is tonight, right? Yeah, as a recording, this is tonight when we post it. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:25:31)
tonight is game one. So you're you're you're
yeah yeah yeah next week your northern neighbors them thunders of Oklahoma City are are taking on the Reggie Miller spacers. Well, have you watched any of the Eastern playoffs at all? So so Reggie Miller has been an announcer for a lot of them and the
Grizz (1:25:51)
thousand percent no I really have it
Ice Bear (1:25:59)
wildly bias announcing is hilarious because obviously like he's a he's a pacer for life like he's that's his his team and so he's like actively fucking rooting for them every game it's so wild to watch
Grizz (1:26:13)
that's but that's what that's
great i i i i i i genuinely love that
Ice Bear (1:26:18)
You don't blows my mind at this point in like technology. How has the NFL, the NBA, the MLB, the NHL, all of your major league sports, how the fuck do they not have an option to switch audio feed to your team's announcers? You can switch it to French or Spanish or German, but you can't go Bengals announcers, Ravens announcers. That would be so fucking simple to do.
Grizz (1:26:36)
You know what?
That's a fucking amazing idea and really
Ice Bear (1:26:48)
Because all the time growing
up, it would take my dad and I out of games because obviously the regional announcers are Ravens fans. And then when Vikings games would come on, for whatever reason, regional announcers were always Packers fans. And so there's nothing more frustrating than a close game and the announcers are like, I don't know, that should have been the other. And you're like, fuck you, that's not the right call at all.
Grizz (1:26:58)
Yeah.
Yeah, that that
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know,
that is so fucking true, especially. like, so you had a thing back in the day, right? Like when we might are driving around, it was a Cowboys game going on and we turned onto the AM station. So we can listen to the Cowboys game. And like, there was always this one announcement. was like, not a Cowboys fan, obviously. And my dad would spend half the game arguing in the car with this fucking guy. Like that is so, oh, that.
Ice Bear (1:27:37)
Yeah, right.
Grizz (1:27:41)
That is so fucking true. Like the fact that you can't switch to like, even if the teams have like, my God, that's such... Yup.
Ice Bear (1:27:47)
It would take no effort. It would be an easy thing to
implement now. And it makes the experience so much better when the person talking about the game is on your side. Because, okay, I'll give you the prime example. So when I first got into hockey in Delaware, there's not a lot of like hockey on TV. So I would be listening to it ⁓ on like NHL's app or whatever. Right. And so there's nothing better than a close game.
Grizz (1:27:59)
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Ice Bear (1:28:17)
And the announcers like for the Habs are like getting into it. They're getting all hyped up. And then, you know, maybe a goal goes the wrong way. And they're like, like they have the same like anguished pain. They're like, fuck, how did that happen? And you're like, you get it. You understand that this is a bad thing. This is nice. And so they're rooting for the proper team and just makes it way better. And then especially with any call, especially if it's a dicey call where it's like kind of a 50 50 and they're on your side right away. You're like
Grizz (1:28:37)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:28:46)
Good job. You understand the refs have failed.
Grizz (1:28:48)
you
Ice Bear (1:28:54)
So anyway, yeah, the NHL, NBA, NFL, MLB do that. And you can give us 5 % of the profits.
Grizz (1:29:02)
saying.
Texas lost last night. My dudes made me sad.
Ice Bear (1:29:11)
Are you guys below 500 now?
Let's check. Let's pull up the... Let's go to the books.
Grizz (1:29:20)
Yeah,
yeah, we are currently...
We're sitting at 29 to 33 right now.
Ice Bear (1:29:30)
⁓ no. ⁓ no. Hey, we have inverse records.
Grizz (1:29:37)
Yeah, yeah, 33 to 29.
Ice Bear (1:29:38)
32 and 29.
So wait, remember when we looked up and like the AI gave us the winner of the World Series this year? Was it the Brewers? Is that what it said? How are the Brewers doing, I wonder? Oh, they're 34 and 29. They're in the mix. How wild will that be if the Brewers win the fucking World Series?
Grizz (1:30:00)
Good.
If they want. Wait,
if that we're investing in brave stock, if that happens. Yeah. Cause like, cause like right now, so like right now, okay. Here's the thing. I fucking hate the Astros. I'm just bringing it up. I hate the Astros. They're number one right now. 32 28.
Ice Bear (1:30:08)
Absolutely we are.
Grizz (1:30:26)
They're putting out the PC is five four one. That's what makes them number one. Number two. Fuck man. I got to go talk to these people in a week. I got to go. Yeah, I got to go back to Seattle in a week. I'm already not looking forward to it. They are 32 and 28. They're number fucking two and then three. My boys.
Ice Bear (1:30:38)
Mm-hmm, Marinus fans are going to be relentless.
Grizz (1:30:55)
Fucking hell.
So we'll see.
Ice Bear (1:31:05)
Is the baseball season too long?
Grizz (1:31:09)
So ⁓
as a person that's initially like an NFL fan because the only sport I liked forever was just football. hated basketball. I couldn't say basketball because I guess it's like the motherfucking fleas and a fucking boy. think I didn't care. I didn't care for it. I hated it. I didn't like it because to me, to me, every other game was fucking checkers and football was chess.
Right. Loved football, hated everything else. And then like, would watch, uh, I didn't, liked going to the, in like, I go into the games, the games were fun because they were engaging. You know what I mean? You see like the energies there, like, guess I wasn't passionate about it. So like, felt that at home and I watched the games for basketball. never felt that because I was never a basketball player. never liked it. I always sucked at it. So never, you know, I never got like, you and then.
but then, you know, playoff games are electrically cool. So I would watch all, I would always watch the playoffs. Um, and things to hear that I slowly started getting into this was fine. When I started getting into baseball, I kinda, did feel that. But then like, when you change your mindset of like game for a game, as opposed to like, like,
Season last season's well, what the fuck? my god. I'm blacking
Bonjoke fucked me up. What's that?
Ice Bear (1:32:34)
Not the banana god, no.
Grizz (1:32:36)
I'm
gonna go striking striking later. What the fuck series god damn it. So wait. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So when you switch from the idea of like single games to series then you then it kind of like okay fine but when you think of just game for game the end the baseball season seems way too long but when you switch it to like okay this is series for series rankings
Ice Bear (1:32:41)
I wanted to help, but I really didn't know where we
Grizz (1:33:00)
like when you think of like okay we are doing like the Mariners instead of thinking of we're gonna go five games you're thinking of like this series how do we pop up on the series you know what mean on average and when you switch your when you switch your mindset from games to series then it's like all right then it's fine but the idea of when you just take out series you're just thinking of games this is long as shit yeah
Ice Bear (1:33:25)
That's an interesting way to look at it, because yeah, if you narrowed it down to just your average, what is it, like three games typically? Three, four.
Grizz (1:33:35)
Yeah,
like, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:33:38)
If you narrow it down to that, is a far more manageable number. Then you're kind of in line with all the other sports. Cause what is 162? Is that how many games of baseball season is?
How many games are in the regular season?
Let's investigate, shall we? Yeah, 162. Good job, me. Good job, drunk me. I still know numbers.
Grizz (1:34:04)
Yeah, cuz I was like you know saying like two or three I was like I think it's like one four But typically yeah, it's like three to four is about three to four games Yeah Yeah, yeah
Ice Bear (1:34:12)
Well, I'm just thinking of the last few J's series and they've all been three.
Which it is, I do really enjoy that it's every night. Like I do love that once the season starts, you're never like, is my team playing? The answer is yes. And maybe they're playing twice today, which is fucking awesome. That is really cool. I just feel like they could easily make it. You know they maybe they should do to make it more, make it the series. Like, so the game doesn't count. The series counts.
Grizz (1:34:30)
Yeah.
Fair? Yeah.
Yeah,
that's fair.
Ice Bear (1:34:49)
So if you have
the three games, you add up all the runs. And if it's 30 to seven, then you won that series. That might make it more interesting to me. as the, but I will play off. Sorry, go ahead. Playoff baseball is great. It's just like any other sport. It's like playoffs. Fantastic. But just getting to that point.
Grizz (1:34:59)
That's especially good cuz coming in yeah
Seems like a lot.
Ice Bear (1:35:16)
And then
especially because you'll have the wild card things now that come down to a play in like a one game thing and you're like 162 and we're just going to decide this in one game. It's annoying.
Grizz (1:35:28)
That's fair. That's 1000 % fair. Like, I think if you go into the mindset of like a series to where you think of so like in playoffs, like a basketball or like whatever, I'm in the team plays what **** was seven games, right? And then you go into things. So yeah. So you think of a similar aspect of that when you think of series, like it's basically as mild version of that just throughout the season. It's much, it's much more palatable.
Ice Bear (1:35:42)
Yeah, or best of seven,
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:35:56)
But yeah, I totally, I totally get it. Cause that was like the biggest thing for me when I first started getting into it. It was, was that cause I was like, cause football, football, it's easy.
Ice Bear (1:36:10)
I do think an esport would be better if they adopted one game playoffs.
Grizz (1:36:17)
It'd be easier if you'd be quicker.
Ice Bear (1:36:19)
I understand why they're doing it. I get it. Obviously you're going to make a lot more money off of seven games than you're going to make off one.
Grizz (1:36:24)
Yeah, I do like I
do I don't know man like that's the thing like I I get the one game playoffs but like You know like when your team's like Three and one you know, like when your team is one and three and then it started pulling like I don't know man that that I totally get the fucking appeal of the playoff. I don't know I guess
Ice Bear (1:36:46)
As
a fan, I always would prefer a series strongly. I think basketball and hockey and baseball, like best of seven is fantastic. I think that's a fair sample size to figure out who's the better team. But I do also enjoy, like think of your average wild card round.
Grizz (1:36:50)
Yeah, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:37:09)
in the NFL, we're like, at this point, it's not a one seed anymore, like we're at two loses to a seven seed. You're like, what the fuck out of the it's so and then like, you know, they're gone. That's it. Sorry, you fucked up.
Grizz (1:37:16)
Yeah.
Yeah,
y'all did fucking amazing this entire time, but you know what, beast? Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:37:27)
Now,
so I don't know.
Grizz (1:37:34)
that works that would work on football because like the whole idea of like that any given Sunday, you know what I mean? Like
Ice Bear (1:37:39)
at
any given Sunday. The other thing is football is just such a physically. You know, it's for the linemen, especially it's it's a prize fight like you need time to recover. Baseball, obviously, there's nothing going on where other than a pitcher like that's why you can play 162 games because you're not really doing anything.
Grizz (1:38:05)
Which is fair, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:38:08)
Whereas football, like you're getting your ass fucking beat for an hour every so you need a little bit of recovery time. ⁓ at the same time, man, I don't know, hockey's as fucking physical, if not more, and they're playing 82 games. So. And also I'm thinking about like when we were kids, we played football every day after school.
Grizz (1:38:26)
The
But
yeah, true. I used to play a lot of street football too. So we'd be getting scraped the fuck up too.
Ice Bear (1:38:37)
Yeah, but I guess we also weren't on juice, as I'm sure a lot of them are. That makes the hits a little rougher.
Yeah. ⁓
Yeah.
yeah, there's there's a few a few things like that. Just honestly any any after school sport, there's a few things that I could just like, I'm there still I can bring myself back to it.
Grizz (1:39:15)
Access, let's go. Yeah.
Let's go to this
because we're getting long. So let's finish. Let's finish the episode with this. What's a play from like football kids football thing that you remember vividly to this day?
Ice Bear (1:39:28)
All
like that I was participating in or like?
Grizz (1:39:38)
Whether you
were, so whether you were participating in where you were playing and like your team did it, your other team did it, whatever, like it doesn't have to be you doing it, but just the, you remember it happened while you were playing or involved. And it just like, you remember it clearly. Like to this day, can close your eyes and imagine it all and how like the hype around it. Like it was one of those fucking like, you know what I mean? Like it was, yeah.
Ice Bear (1:39:46)
Okay.
Okay. Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay. ⁓
All right. So this is Pee Wee League. was in fourth grade. We practiced maybe twice a week. And we were going to go up on a weekend play our game against the team that was from Bowie, which is closer to DC. And these kids practiced five times a week. And their coaches like we're like, even though you're 10, you're going to take this seriously.
Grizz (1:40:27)
Damn.
Ice Bear (1:40:35)
We lost this game if memory serves. 63 to seven. And the seven was just a fluke. It should have been 63 nothing. In the middle of that game, ⁓ which so the week that we were trying out for positions, I was sick. So I missed it. So the entire season I was switching positions. I played tight end. played left guard. I played right guard. I played center. played running back.
Grizz (1:40:42)
⁓ shit.
Ice Bear (1:41:05)
So I played a shit ton of positions throughout the season. In this particular game, I was left guard. I fucked up. I let the guy go past me. It was like almost unblocked. I maybe got like a hand on him. He sacked our quarterback in a manner that he got the kid's pants and pantsed him.
So this kid was in the middle of the field, not only sacked, but also just little boy peen out flopping in the wind. And to this day, I feel like I've betrayed that young man. And I don't know if he's ever recovered, but I still think about it sometimes. So probably not.
Grizz (1:41:54)
So fucking hilarious.
So mine's the complete opposite of that.
So mine was neighborhood kids were playing street football. And the way we do it is the goals were like houses. At the end of houses, we'd have like two cones and we'd put one at the end of one house, one at the end of the house. And that was like our field, right?
and out of bounds is the sidewalk it's you're right there's cars in the street too so you gotta like you know what mean like it's right yeah and we'd be tackling each other's shit too like on the street like we'd be coming home bloody it's just fun as fuck though right i remember we were i'm like in fifth going to sixth grade sixth grade sorry sixth seventh grade and
Ice Bear (1:42:25)
Yeah.
Grizz (1:42:44)
I'm on the team. One of my buddies named Kyle. He's like, you know, quarterback or running back. He's just those two when he wasn't quarterback. I was quarterback. He was at, but like my main thing has always been defense, right? Like I was defensive end. I'm fucking like, I'm, I just wanted to lay motherfuckers out. It's all I care about, but I can also throw a ball. like, cause for the longest time growing up, I wanted to be a quarterback. So I got really good. And so like, and running back shit too. Cause like,
sidebars like me and my pops when we'd be like walking to the corner store and we'd be walking through parking lots.
he get a ball and he throw bombs and I'd fucking just run to the parking lot as fast as I can and just look at it and like I don't know why my dad to think I was a fucking bitch so I'm like I'm gonna fucking commit so I'm talking about I'm running running running running about myself to me my dad and I'm diving to catch his bombs and I'd catch up and fucking fall and just to get and slide on the concrete and get scraped the fuck up and just throw the ball he I can't show him that I'm fucking like I'm hurt because like you know what I mean and so
Ice Bear (1:43:33)
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Grizz (1:43:46)
I'm fine with either one. like when might, when you Kyle wasn't a quarterback, I was a quarterback, right? Whatever, right? But this time I'm doing, I'm just on the line. It's five against five. I'm on the line. Right? I'm trying to protect Kyle. He's, he's not quarterback. It's one of our friends. Hey, we go. Hey guys, I got.
thing goes, just fucking breaks through the small line. I go and I push one of the guys out the way just trying to get him and Kyle's running to try to get the ball and the dude fucking throws a ball, right? And Kyle's fucking running trying to get it. We're trying to get it because we're trying to win. And so I fucking let this motherfucker out to get it clear for this dude, for fucking Kyle. He's running. He's just fucking running, running, Dude throws the fucking bomb.
We're going and we're like watching and Kyle reaches like reaches out to catch it and he catches a ball like this. Like he catches the tip of the ball from his hand and he's sticking out this way. He catches it like this. Yeah, he's like, catches it like this and he runs with it and he makes the fucking goal and all of us are just like, just freaking out and the losing team was just like.
Ice Bear (1:44:49)
like, like, ⁓ Odell Beckham Jr. style.
Grizz (1:45:05)
What the fuck dude it was like Quite essentially the fucking thing. It was like the it was better than any actual sanction game. We had in school It was just like it was do the we are fucking raving about that shit for years until like It was just so fucking good. I can remember it vividly
Ice Bear (1:45:06)
⁓ man.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's awesome. There are so many things where you're outside of the structure of like high school sports, where you're just with your buddies and it's so much more fun because you're all just playing because you fucking love the game. And that's all there is to it. And there's something about that that makes it even better. So yeah, that sounds awesome.
Grizz (1:45:35)
Yeah.
Yep.
and it's great. It's so good. So good.
Ice Bear (1:45:52)
Well, are we we shotgunning these bad boys?
Grizz (1:45:57)
I'm the freezer and finish my actuarial and get a little bit left.
Ice Bear (1:45:59)
Eugh.
Grizz (1:46:12)
Oof.
Ice Bear (1:46:18)
Yeah, that was really disappointing. ⁓ That's the it's just it's not. It's not bad. It's just bland and like the blueberry is very like minimal on the aftertaste and
Grizz (1:46:21)
Damn, that bad?
Ice Bear (1:46:37)
That's a C-.
Grizz (1:46:41)
Okay, yeah, so not bad but like not great below average C- right? Yeah
Ice Bear (1:46:44)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's one of those ones where I would accept it, but I would never buy it again.
Grizz (1:46:55)
Yeah.
Damn. This is disappointing.
Ice Bear (1:46:59)
I started out too high with the make milk bags great again.
Grizz (1:47:04)
Yeah,
I fucking love I love that one so much. It's so good. It's such a good
Ice Bear (1:47:08)
I saw it
and I was I saw it and I was like, Oh, man, old gris is gonna love this shit.
Grizz (1:47:12)
⁓
Such a good one.
Ice Bear (1:47:18)
Well, we did it. We're here again.
Grizz (1:47:19)
I think that's good. Yeah.
It's been great. This was good, you know? Reminiscent. Having some good beers. I ended with a solid beer. You ended with an OK beer. But it's been good. We're doing another thing. We're here at nearly a two-hour mark again. when granted, the last two episodes are pretty close to an hour. Now we've fucked it up again.
Ice Bear (1:47:27)
Ha
Yeah, we were we were doing good. And then we fucked we fucked up by having
free time. All right. Here's how we end this ⁓ finals predictions go NBA.
Grizz (1:47:49)
Let's show we fucked up again.
to be honest, you give me your prediction because I'm a NBA finals. Cause I don't know who all who's in it.
Ice Bear (1:48:07)
Thunder
and six.
Grizz (1:48:10)
I'm sure, fuck, I hate the thunder, but I can't.
Ice Bear (1:48:11)
Thunder
and six Chet Holmgren's surprise finals MVP
Grizz (1:48:20)
What makes you say that?
Ice Bear (1:48:24)
⁓ What makes me say that is I fully expect ⁓ Shay to get doubled constantly. I suspect game one, he is like tonight, it wouldn't surprise me if he has 50 plus, because I think they're gonna let him be the free throw merchant and he is. I think he's gonna shoot like fucking 27 free throws and get like 20 of them.
Grizz (1:48:47)
Yeah, because
he's a thing. So like, because what is thunder and paces, right?
Ice Bear (1:48:52)
Yes.
Grizz (1:48:54)
Yeah, I don't see.
Because who is it really? It's fucking Shay against what? Tyrese with a Halliburton, right?
Ice Bear (1:49:06)
⁓ I mean, I personally think Spicy P, my boy Pascal Siakam is the best player on the Pacers. But yes, the average fan is going to say Tyrese Halliburton is the best player on the Pacers.
Grizz (1:49:17)
Yeah, yeah, right.
I don't see Halliburton Besson Shea.
Ice Bear (1:49:23)
I don't, the main thing I think the Pacers can't overcome is the Thunder have the deepest team in league. Their six through nine is as good as a lot of other teams, two through five.
Grizz (1:49:30)
Fair.
Because,
because, because okay. See as much as I don't like them. They're like a switch team, right? Like they're fucking strong defense, strong fucking offense. They get like.
Ice Bear (1:49:47)
Yes. And
the other thing is, other than Shay, they have nine guys playing 20 minutes.
Grizz (1:49:52)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:49:55)
Like they have a lot of people playing a lot of so by the end of the and the Pacers are similar like they are also deep. So it will be interesting. Like I think it'll be fun, but I think I think Thunder Wind.
Grizz (1:50:04)
Yeah. Yeah.
I think she takes it. I, I, when I think of like star power players and everything, like she's a fucking menace. I'll say. Yeah. Yeah. I will go eight. I don't like okay. See for obvious reasons. Cause you know, being an old Dallas boy, but
Ice Bear (1:50:18)
You know, those flamboyant Canadians.
Grizz (1:50:34)
I think she takes it. think they'll basically take it. You think they take it in six? Yeah. Hmm. I'm trying to think.
Ice Bear (1:50:45)
I'm saying they take it in six. think Chet gets finals MVP and I think he's on like a 25-13 kind of stat line for the series.
Grizz (1:50:56)
Interesting. So why do you think he takes the MVP?
Ice Bear (1:50:59)
because I think after game one, because I do think, I don't think the NBA is rigged, but I think it is reactionary to the point where Silver calls down like, hey, the fans are talking, the media is talking, you know, here's how we're gonna referee games. And I think Shay stops getting calls after game one. And I think that fucks with him. I would, tonight, my guess is, and I wanna talk to you about this tomorrow.
Grizz (1:51:20)
That's fair.
Ice Bear (1:51:27)
Tonight, I'm saying Shea goes 50. 50, five zero. And I think the rest of the series, he goes like 15 to 25. Whereas I think the whole time Chet's gonna be like a 25, 14 kinda stat line.
Grizz (1:51:31)
All right.
Interesting, all right. I wouldn't even push Shade that high, but all right, I'm down. I'm curious. I was thinking Shade's more like high 30s to 40. Like, yeah, let's do it. All right. I think that was a good closing. We'll see what happens.
Ice Bear (1:51:54)
We'll find out. It'll be a hoot and a half.
Bear growls, bear growls to close it out.
