Grizz (00:35)
That was some gurgles on that one.
Ice Bear (00:37)
Mine was mine was flaccid but a little bit a little bit sassy.
Grizz (00:41)
That sounded like an Omanyte or a Kabuto.
Ice Bear (00:52)
You know, that is your fossil Pokemon or some of the forgotten members of Gen 1, so kudos for bringing them up. Well done, sir.
Grizz (01:01)
I always go back between who, if I like Kabutops or Omastar better. Cause I like Kabutops, they got some fucking scythes. But then Omastar is pretty fucking cool though. Like I always forget about him. Like yeah, obviously Kabutops is better. But then like you see Omastar and you're like, damn, he's pretty fucking cool too.
Ice Bear (01:09)
Me too.
I had a really weird thing, Gen 1, where I couldn't use two stage EVOs.
Grizz (01:28)
That's fair.
Ice Bear (01:29)
Like I had to have them be like the single guys, like a Tauros or a Jinx or something, or it had to be a full like Charizard Blastoise.
Grizz (01:34)
interesting.
Okay, so that that that's a little different. Because for me, if they didn't evolve at all, like
The only one that kind of got a path of a Scyther and Pinser because they were so hard to get. I mean, Tauros kind of was that too, right? Actually, no, the only one that actually got a pass because I was never able to really catch a Scyther and Pinser in the fucking safari zone. I got one through a trade one time, but the only one that got a pass was Lapras.
Ice Bear (01:53)
Yeah.
was hard to do.
Yeah, Lapras is a great one. ⁓ I had a team that was just all the weirdos. I had a Mr. Mime, and a Jinx, and a Taurus. I had Lapras, and then what was the other one? It was probably two of the legendary birds, but I remember my whole team was single stages.
Grizz (02:31)
Is this red and blue or is this yellow?
Ice Bear (02:34)
This is red and blue. By the time yellow came around, that's when I had to have all the three ones, because you could have Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise, which that was great. then the only exception would be in later gens, I started running dog teams, and then like Arcanine, Houndoom, Ninetales, they were all accepted.
Grizz (02:35)
Yeah.
All right, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I did a few. I've had Arcanine and Houndoom. It's one of my mains in different gens. But for me, my red and blue team are like my, I'll just pick one of them, was Blastoise starter. There's big man Blastoise, always.
Ice Bear (03:11)
Big Man Blastoise, Big Man Blastoise
Grizz (03:14)
Love the fucking
Like ⁓ But it was Blastoise, Sandslash or Dugtrio pending what which which ⁓ Which version ⁓ Although I broke I usually try not to have the same ⁓ Type but I did on this one. I had to Vaporeon Cuz before I'm sure starter ⁓ Haunter
Ice Bear (03:23)
Mmm.
Sandslash very fun.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (03:45)
Cause I couldn't trade for Gengar so I had Haunter ⁓ So Haunter, Pidgeot.
Ice Bear (03:50)
want her to be a lad.
Grizz (03:55)
Sandslash, Vaporeon, ⁓ Blastoise and then my 6th Pokemon was... ⁓
Ice Bear (04:04)
Cloister because you're
a pervert.
Grizz (04:07)
No, I already got that covered with Vaporeon. I had a Butterfree one time. know one of the run throughs I did a Butterfree. Oh Venomoth because fucking Koga and like so that was that was a one I did Venomoth and I've taken Kadabra before but my fucking yellow team was obviously Mewtwo It had to be Pikachu and Mewtwo. I had a Gengar. Gengar, Dugtrio.
Ice Bear (04:16)
Mm-hmm.
Cocoa was cool.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Grizz (04:37)
Vaporeon and Pidgeot. That was my yellow team.
Ice Bear (04:39)
That's a squad.
That's a good squad. And Pikachu knowing surf was great. That was a lot of fun. That was a good gimmick.
Grizz (04:49)
I'm gonna start from Pikachu. didn't even know that I could do that.
Ice Bear (04:50)
Fuck you, Onyx.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, you could get Surf and Pikachu.
Grizz (04:57)
That is actually really cool. I always wondered how they got that gif or like how that reaction when talk to him. Didn't know.
Ice Bear (05:01)
Mm hmm. Mm
hmm. So I kind of I kind of jumped ahead, I leaned back a little too early. I spoiled the people. Do you mind if I start this one off introducing mine? Okay. And I preface this with I might have had this before it's getting hard to keep track what I've had on on the episodes and off but
Grizz (05:16)
go go start it off.
Ice Bear (05:28)
It's October now. Beer One today is going to be from Bob Cajun, which we've had before. And this is a pumpkin pie PA, pumpkin spiced IPA.
Grizz (05:43)
Funky Pipe, yeah, that's awesome. You know, that is an incredible bear sync. I'm gonna elaborate on that further. But what were we talking about ABV?
Ice Bear (05:52)
ABV this one is a this is a reasonable and sexy 6.5
Grizz (05:58)
Mm-hmm. we almost had a pretty hard-basing. So this one right here I while Leaving old work and everything I was like, you know, I was going to going through a beer looking at beers I was like, you know, maybe I should get a third beer for to be to be today You know feeling a little crazy and I saw this can I saw this I saw I was looking through all of them and I saw a can I was like, this is fucking cool. Maybe I can get this one and then I realized ⁓ shit I already got that one
Ice Bear (06:18)
Why not?
Grizz (06:28)
for Tubi Tubi today. I was like, oh wow. Okay. So I would have picked this can twice. Basically, this is from a Wander Brewing and I don't think I've had them before. They're from Bellingham, Washington. This is a 6.4. So you're super close in ABV, but this one right here is a nice sled. This one's a specific type of IPA that has the specific type of design.
Ice Bear (06:30)
you
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay.
Grizz (06:58)
which this type of art is called. Hmm. So on tip of my tongue, I'm thinking mosaic probably. All right. Look at this. Look at this. Look at this. This is like a Jack, a raccoon Jackal was an eye patch call.
Ice Bear (07:06)
⁓ look at that. Look at that happy little lad.
Okay,
I thought it was like ⁓ a gopher head with antlers.
Grizz (07:20)
Are a honey manager.
Is it a gopher? might be a gopher. thought it was.
Ice Bear (07:26)
No, it's definitely
a badger. No, now that I'm looking at it, it's coming a little more clear now. It's a badger.
Grizz (07:29)
Yeah, is it a badger or a raccoon? Probably a badger. No,
it probably is a badger, right? Because of the things. What about that with the antlers and the eye patch? Right? This right here is mosaic single eye PA.
Ice Bear (07:43)
⁓ well done, Wander. I love a good-
Grizz (07:47)
Single IPA. So we got a really ponderful start right now.
Ice Bear (07:48)
That's very good.
That is really good.
You know what else is really good? This beer. You know why it's really good? Because it's pumpkin. And do you know what I am? Do you know what I am, sir? I.
Grizz (08:07)
I it may
be a small...
Ice Bear (08:11)
I am a-
Grizz (08:12)
Hahaha!
Ice Bear (08:16)
Let's get that cord out of here for the picture.
Grizz (08:18)
Ha
ha ha!
Ice Bear (08:22)
The pumpkin just comes to me. I said, me your seed pumpkin. And the pumpkin says, yes, sir.
and I gobble it up.
Anyway, this was the second gift to the show. And let me tell you, I was so pleasantly surprised. I also like that the font is just very, it's not quite Comic Sans, but it's a very playful font. It's a font that says, I'm a little puppet slug. Like you know to read it in that voice. It's not an intimidating sentence.
Grizz (08:44)
God damn.
Yeah.
It's great. It's great about it is how some simplistic it is. Like it's not a crazy fun or anything. It's it's almost Comic Sans times wrong. Like it's a little it's a little where it's not that it's like impact Comic Sans. You know what mean? It's it just adds so much to it. It's so funny. It's like it's just a statement. Like I'm not I'm not doing anything. This is a statement of fact.
Ice Bear (09:12)
You
Yeah, I'm just...
Just look, I'm a little bit of a slut, just need you to know. I think if I ever get anything else like this, it's gotta be just like fucking Helvetica. Just like a real, real business standard. And also smaller. Just like something like, just like... Like an 18 point plot. They have to lean in and they're like...
Grizz (09:36)
Hahaha
Yeah.
What's that say? ⁓
Ice Bear (10:02)
You're a fucking gingerbread whore? What?
Grizz (10:07)
Are you freaking?
from banana breath dude
Ice Bear (10:14)
What about banana bread?
Grizz (10:18)
I got banana bread dude? Hell yeah.
Ice Bear (10:27)
You totally lost me. I want to participate. I'm failing you. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I assume this is I assume this is a reference from one of you Utes. It's probably it's probably something I missed while investing in prunes and old people things.
Grizz (10:30)
⁓
my God. I've definitely showed this to you because this is one of my like favorite videos of all time. And this is guy talking about banana bread and he says, I can say if I can do, I'm going to fuck this up. But he's like, dude, I got some fucking banana bread at work today, dude. yeah. My mom told me if I wait for things like good things will happen to me, dude. And I fucking waited for things and some things and I got some banana bread at work today, ⁓ yeah. So it just goes to show that waiting for things is like worth it.
Ice Bear (10:53)
fuck, and I just missed it somehow?
you
Grizz (11:16)
But there's a lot of bad things in the world, dude. Like fucking skunks, dude. Hell no. Scratching your eye, but still, but still fucking itchy, dude. Hell no. Like the fucking cops, dude. Hell no. Like getting paid. I'm not going to yell this one, because I'm in an apartment, but he's like, are you getting paid? Not a lot of money, dude, for fucking working. Hell no. But banana bread. I fucking work, dude. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, bro. Hell yeah. Banana bread, bro.
I fucking worked dude! Hell yeah! There's even a gif of him yelling hell yeah.
Ice Bear (11:53)
How
many exclamation points were on the ones that you were dialing it back? A lot, I'm guessing. Yeah. Okay, yeah. That was perfect restraint. I knew exactly the level of volume that you would have done had you been societally allowed to do it.
Grizz (11:57)
um four six four two thing but he he really yells it out yeah i was trying i was trying to yeah
It's one of my favorite videos of all time.
Ice Bear (12:20)
man. So one of our last episodes I had it playing when I was doing dishes earlier. And I don't know what we were talking about. I don't remember bringing it up. I don't remember you bringing it up. I assume I was trying to say Austrian economics. But I think and I could have misheard it. But I think I said ostrich economics, like three times and I was like
Grizz (12:47)
So I, ⁓ I was talking about, I like how Rob Schneider's based and he likes, he like, believes, Austrian economics. I think he's pretty based.
Ice Bear (12:59)
And I just said ostrich and I don't know if I was serious or not. I hope I was serious. I hope I was like, yep, ostrich economics. Sometimes you got to be a real big bird. Those things got to be valuable.
Grizz (13:01)
Yeah.
Time's a-gotta put your head in the ground, not like that was going around ya.
Ice Bear (13:16)
No, fuck, ain't that the truth? I aspire to be an ostrich.
⁓ Let me tell you.
Grizz (13:30)
man. So what you feeling on this ⁓ beer?
Ice Bear (13:33)
⁓ Well, even if I weren't a little pumpkin slut, I would be liking this lot. It's very good. It's very good. I'm just I always forget how much I like this time of year until it comes around because in my head, I normally think I'm a winter person. Thus the ice bear moniker. I think I might like fucking fall more. I really like fall.
Grizz (13:52)
Mm-hmm.
I fall. I love fall. like
the second half I like like fall winter I love springs. I don't give a fuck about spring other than like spring in other places.
Ice Bear (14:12)
like cherry blossoms.
Grizz (14:14)
like all that shit and just like, know, like, when wisteria bloom and things like that, like, it's nice. It's pretty like, like, it's dope. I don't live anywhere where that happens. So like, you know what I mean? Like, ⁓ now granted in Texas, when all the blue bonnets go all across the highways and shit, that's cool as fuck. That's nice. I like that. But yeah, like, it's just, you know, not the craziest. Also, I didn't some people don't agree people hate it, but I personally love it.
Ice Bear (14:21)
Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
Mmm.
Mm.
Grizz (14:43)
⁓ and i'm gonna miss it is during summer like when the cicadas start I I fucking love the cicada noise Like I love cicadas too in general But like they're fucking cool I love the noise
Ice Bear (14:50)
You like that? ⁓ You like the skater noise?
Man, I go real back and forth
on that. Cause when they're not around, I kind of miss them. But there are days when I'm like driving home and they're just blaring and I'm like, fuck you little bugs.
Grizz (15:15)
I them. I love I love. Yeah, cuz it cuz it. Yeah. Yeah. And then just like you know that one like ⁓ I remember showing it to y'all back in the day or trying to get y'all to watch it but that that that Higurashi I think it's when they cry or some shit like that one anime where it's like a
Ice Bear (15:16)
Yeah, I can see it. And they always put it in like anime and stuff, so it is charming.
Grizz (15:36)
bunch of one-offs and the whole thing is talking about to cater to the bit like the allegories to cicadas as again to summer because like the cicadas are the our cicadas in Japan are like you know the change of summer so like they're crying kind of signifies that I don't know it's it's dope I love them I like their big ass goofy ass eyes and they're thick-assing I fuck I think they're dope as shit I love them
Ice Bear (15:37)
Mm-hmm.
Mmm.
you
Yeah.
This is good. I'm glad you're out there to appreciate them. Not enough people do. I want to be fully on your side, but I do get annoyed by them sometimes.
Grizz (16:18)
Yeah, can genuinely say I've never been annoyed by them. Even when they're loud, even this one like like tree in my front yard.
Ice Bear (16:29)
You know what I have that's like that that a lot of people are super annoyed by? Fucking Whipperwills. I love a good Whipperwill.
Grizz (16:38)
What's a whip for? What do they sound like?
Ice Bear (16:41)
They literally say their name, they're fucking Pokemon. They're like, whip, whip, whip. They sound just like that.
Grizz (16:49)
Huh, are they or what do they like mainly reside?
Ice Bear (16:50)
They're great.
I had one right outside my
house in Missouri. Maryland had Purwills and they're just like, Purwoo, Purwoo. It's just a shorter thing. But Whippoorwills definitely, I had Missouri. I don't know where else there. I assume the Midwest.
Grizz (17:11)
Yeah, these are...
Ice Bear (17:12)
do some
fact checking on
Grizz (17:15)
⁓ whoa, whoa, whoa. my. have no idea. You just you just you just blacked out when all crazy on us. The Whippoorwales got you.
Ice Bear (17:19)
What happened there?
no... Eww... What?
Grizz (17:31)
the
Eastern whippoorwill mess. black, your black screen on my end. you, can you see your screen?
Ice Bear (17:37)
No, I'm blacked out on my end. have no idea why. ⁓ my. All right. All right. I'm coming back. I'm coming back. We're going to bring it back in.
Grizz (17:39)
⁓ my lord.
⁓ all right. All
right. So now that we can look at you can see all my all my shit right there. That's all grizzled moving. So there's all this shit right here. My shit. Anyways, well, I were talking about Whimper wheels and all that kind of stuff and they took them away.
I'm supposed to fill in the space, but I ain't got nothing. It's been an interesting time. It's been an interesting time. ⁓ well, look at that. It's teasing. ⁓ my God, you're back.
Ice Bear (18:16)
⁓ my god. That was scary.
I'm back. I don't know what happened. I have no idea. I just, can only assume I was too little a pumpkin slut. It's like you come back bigger, a bigger pumpkin slut.
Grizz (18:30)
Ha ha!
You have a bigger, stronger.
Ice Bear (18:35)
Harder, better, faster, stronger. So did you find where whipperwheels live?
Grizz (18:39)
Hmm
But yeah.
So when I Googled Whip Whale, it says Eastern Whip Whale. So I'm assuming like mainly these, ooh, they're not turtle birds.
Ice Bear (18:53)
Yeah, all night. they're like, that's why people hate them because they don't shut up like the whole night.
Grizz (19:00)
That is interesting. Family, they're part of the night jars. No wonder I saw them. They look like that fucking fog mouth bird. Yeah, that makes sense. Night jars. That's fucking cool.
Ice Bear (19:11)
guys. Love them a lot.
Grizz (19:14)
They're cool, I like the way they look.
Ice Bear (19:17)
Yeah, that is one I can totally understand why people hate them because they are loud and it does not stop and they're like little so you couldn't really barring like cutting your tree down you're probably not gonna be able to get rid of them that easily.
Grizz (19:32)
wow, the range ramps are kind of crazy. They're in East Texas. So damn, they're all the way from East Texas. There's a little bit in like... ⁓
Ooh, there's a little bit in...
Western Arizona and Eastern New Mexico and it goes down to Mexico And it's a good part of Mexico, too, but it's primarily eastern Texas Louisiana all the way to Florida up like basically all of Eastern US and then and then they go up to like the Great Lakes and then up into the mid part of Of all maple and like it doesn't look like ⁓
Ice Bear (19:56)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (20:19)
Cause like the Calgary was a British Columbia area that's like East, no, West of the Dakotas, right?
Ice Bear (20:25)
Yeah, that's directly above you British Columbia's right above Washington State.
Grizz (20:28)
Right. Yeah. Yeah. So
what's to the, what's east of that? yeah. So like in part of Alberta then.
Ice Bear (20:33)
Alberta. ⁓
And then Manitoba
and Saskatchewan.
Grizz (20:39)
Yes, that's part of those areas, I guess.
Ice Bear (20:41)
⁓ now my follow-up question based on all that is do you think our rabid fan base in Southeast Asia are they here for bird facts is that what brings them back week after week just this where where do whipper wills live quick facts these learning
Grizz (20:59)
I don't think it's bird facts, but I think it's quick facts. Like, look at this. Yeah. Quick facts. Like the keen sense
of a bear, right? Like, me, like, look at this.
Give me three facts about Africa.
Ice Bear (21:14)
Africa. is a continent. It is home to ⁓ the pyramids. And of course, you have ⁓ Madagascar, which is not only a movie, but a cute little island.
Grizz (21:37)
I'm a fucking flat earth guy.
Okay.
Ice Bear (21:43)
It took a lot of willpower to not say who lived there, which would have been an extra fun fact.
Grizz (21:51)
You
Ice Bear (21:56)
And join us for 2B2B After Dark, where we talk about cobalt mines.
Too soon? Too soon, probably too soon.
Grizz (22:05)
⁓ you like your solar panels,
You like them solar panels? This has all the talks about ⁓ your lithium batteries.
Ice Bear (22:16)
You think that Tesla's helping the world? Let me tell you about child labor. ⁓
Grizz (22:24)
you thought Foxconn was bad?
Ice Bear (22:27)
This took a weird turn. All right, now you give me three facts about ⁓ Australia.
Grizz (22:31)
This is what we really went from.
Ice Bear (22:48)
I swear to God I was hoping that you were gonna be like, did you know no can be spelled with seven letters?
Grizz (23:02)
You
Ice Bear (23:02)
Crikey
you sicky butt brain that's a wallaby.
Grizz (23:07)
⁓ Well, I'd say some things that people don't know is that one of the greatest predators in all Australia down under are a thing called drop bears.
Ice Bear (23:24)
or a thing called drop bears?
Grizz (23:27)
Yeah, drop bears.
Ice Bear (23:28)
That's a species?
Grizz (23:31)
Yeah, you ever heard of a drop bear?
Ice Bear (23:32)
I've never heard of a drop bear. What is a drop bear?
Grizz (23:35)
They're like little demonic koala looking things that just drop from the tree and attack your ass.
Ice Bear (23:40)
Is this real?
Grizz (23:43)
Look, I'm going to Google, Google Australian drop bear. Google it.
Ice Bear (23:47)
Okay, I will. You're
not sassing me. This isn't gonna be like a lemon party situation, is it?
Grizz (23:55)
This is a thing that, not some 11 party thing, but this is a thing that the Nazis talk about.
Ice Bear (23:58)
Just drop baronets, just scrotum.
Grizz (24:06)
This is the thing that they always talk about. They're called drop bears.
Ice Bear (24:10)
Okay. Let's investigate the drop bear. Drop bear. What is this? Oh, famous hoaxing. I saw the fangs in this first one. Dude, I'm too old for computers now. AI gets me all the time. Sometimes I'll be like, look at this in the seal will be like, there's like seven fingers on that you more on it. I'm like, oh,
Grizz (24:21)
Yeah
Ice Bear (24:39)
I guess so there are
Grizz (24:40)
I'm not going to lie. I've,
I've like, I've gotten tricked like once or twice from like, Oh, this crazy. And I send it and just like, Oh, the tiger and she was like, Hey, he's getting crazy. Right. And I was like, yeah, I know. But in my just doom scroll, just in my doom scroll of like, not really looking at the videos and I just see it for what it is. I just send it cause it's, know, I didn't realize it was AI. And then she, as soon she says that I look at it and I'm like, Oh, this is AI as fuck.
Ice Bear (24:51)
Hehehe
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Like if you pay attention and you like look at stuff longer than like 10s, but that's what they're banking on, right? They're banking on just the quick like, ⁓ I saw it. It's real. And then you're like, shit.
Grizz (25:15)
Yeah.
Yeah, there's
a video of that one guy like art and like where he's sees this like island floating island thing of like the waterfalls and he's trying to Google where it's at. it sounds like this looks fake as shit. What are you talking about? Like his AI is not real. It looks like he's like, no, no, no. And he's trying to like Google it. He's like rewind it. It's trying to like actually go and he's just like crashing out. But the thing is that like it's not even like good AI. It's literally like PlayStation one fucking Final Fantasy cut scene.
Ice Bear (25:36)
⁓
man.
⁓ no...
⁓ that's rough.
Grizz (25:49)
At best,
and that's being generous to be honest.
Ice Bear (25:52)
It's just fucking Snake crawling up that ladder in the silo forever. That level of graphics.
Grizz (25:58)
When
people make the joke of that or when they're on that climbing machine in the gym and they play that music, I'm like, you motherfucker, that's so good. Damn, I wish I did that. I never thought of that at all, but it's so fucking cool. wanted to do it.
Ice Bear (26:18)
Yeah, it's very good. That was that.
Grizz (26:22)
It's it's so funny cuz I remember seeing that I like what the fuck is this and I was little I wasn't I Was like, are you doing this to this cool game? This stupid and then now I hear it I'm like in this fucking game like, you know, it's like
Ice Bear (26:31)
the
between that and like, Psycho Mantis, God, just some absolute gem concepts in that.
Grizz (26:42)
Dude, the cycle mantis one,
or he like went to your memory card and he says delete. I was like,
Ice Bear (26:50)
I
was going to cry because I thought they were going to delete my like 2k1 or 2k whatever basketball game was out at that time.
Grizz (26:54)
Yeah.
It's so funny for me
was Tony Hawk pro skater too, where I put fucking hundreds of hours into where I got my fucking boy John Wayne, right? I have my skateboard custom skater, John Wayne. And like I had him fucking completely maxed out. had unlocked fucking everything in. He like pops up and he shows the thing and he was there with Tony Hawk pro skater. I was fucking like, ⁓ I was crashing the fuck out. I thought he didn't delete my shit.
Ice Bear (27:03)
Yeah.
Speaking of skating, sidebar, is not AI, confirm this actually happened. Did you see the guy that was skating on the... They basically did a small half-pipe suspended by helicopters. Or no, helicopters, hot air balloons.
Grizz (27:42)
No.
Really?
Ice Bear (27:47)
Yeah,
so he was just on this thing like, and he had a parachute. So if he fell off, like he wasn't gonna die. But yeah, he's just skating in a half pipe, like, however high up it was wild looking. I was just like, I can't. I think so. Yeah. The some of the Red Bull things are just I'm like, what?
Grizz (27:56)
That's so fucking cool. Was it like one of those Red Bull things?
Yeah, I.
like, like the two pilots are like, jumped out of their plane to go into the other planes. And one of them actually fucking got it successfully. Like that's fucking insane.
Ice Bear (28:16)
I just like anything that they're doing. It's really pushing the envelope. They had a guy do a drop in from, want to say like 300 feet, maybe higher. was like well at the top of the skyscraper and he's just dropping in on this ramp. It was incredible. And then they have guys doing like that big air thing with BMX and they're like throwing their bike down, catching another bike that someone's like tossing them and still it's like.
Grizz (28:32)
That's fucking crazy.
It's so fucking cool like as much as the old the ultra series is good like what the fuck is monster doing? They're just punching walls. They got red bull here fucking changing the world
Ice Bear (28:47)
It's so cool.
Yeah.
Yeah. They'll have guys jump out of helicopters to ski down insane mountains. it's like, Yeah, that's fun. If you have the resources, that is really cool that you're doing that.
Grizz (29:14)
It's so, it is so fucking cool. It 1000 % so fucking cool.
Ice Bear (29:22)
What I want to see, what is the next great like extreme sports thing?
ramp up chess boxing even more, give them knives.
Grizz (29:39)
Slap Boxing, but with sharks.
Ice Bear (29:41)
Dude slap fight.
Grizz (29:44)
This shark
skin really cuts your hands.
Ice Bear (29:48)
I can't say I've ever played with a shark. I don't know.
Grizz (29:53)
I don't think it's real, but I was told that's what happened since I was a little kid.
Ice Bear (29:57)
I mean,
I mean, it would be a weird thing to lie about. Like people are already scared of sharks. There's not like, you don't need more incentive to avoid sharks. Everyone saw Jaws.
Grizz (30:09)
I do
like all like the rewriting of sharks where they're like, sharks really aren't that bad. Hippos are worse than sharks.
Ice Bear (30:13)
you
Well hippos are fucking insane, double like land water tank things there. And hippo mouths are terrifying. Just crazy jagged teeth, teeth way too far back in there.
Grizz (30:29)
their best shit.
Yeah, I remember we talked about hippo mass. It is crazy. Yeah.
Yeah.
Ice Bear (30:39)
It's like a vortex wide
at the top, like a it's like a dog cone of shame with fucking teeth in it.
Grizz (30:43)
Yeah.
Yeah, that's, yeah, they're interesting. It's one of those things like, cause guess, cause sharks get a bad rap. Sharks, I mean, obviously, you know, they're terrifying and things. Anything in the ocean is terrifying cause the ocean is terrifying in general. like, but like, like statistics, this just shows you how like statistics are bullshit in the way they're framed. Sometimes one is like, did you know the most shark attacks? Most shark attacks are happens like within.
Ice Bear (30:58)
Yeah, the ocean is very scary.
Grizz (31:11)
on the shoreline of whatever feet of the shoreline is it can no shit that's where the people are bro. Like, but it
Ice Bear (31:17)
This is one
class that every every person should be forced to take a year of statistics because it is so easy to manipulate data. Especially when they do like bar graphs and then you look at the like the start point is like 98 and then the endpoint is 100 and you're like, oh, so this is just all the same fucking thing. This is like a uniform data point, but you're zooming it in. Altra to make it look like a jarring difference.
Grizz (31:32)
yeah.
Yeah, it did.
Ice Bear (31:47)
Aw man.
Grizz (31:47)
Yeah,
it's fucking it's crazy. Well, like just like the general statistic of that. Well, like I remember. Starts specifically just how most shark attacks happen at the shore and beaches and like, yeah, no fucking shit where like the majority of the humans are because most people don't fucking go out into the ocean. That's like, sure, bro. ⁓
Ice Bear (32:00)
Yeah. Yeah.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm sure Yeah, absolutely. And I bet there's plenty of crazy stats where it's like, ⁓ this happens in Alaska. And like, the only place that could happen is in Alaska. it's okay.
Grizz (32:26)
Yeah. There's one of that.
Ice Bear (32:29)
What was beer number one for you, by the way? What are you rating that bad boy? Are you done?
Grizz (32:35)
This one's this one. Yeah, I'm finished. This one is conflicting for me because like It's a really good beer and I enjoyed it. I like it. I like this guy This boy's name is faster he is great. He's awesome. I like him He has the He has the curse of old gris drinking a lot of epas
Ice Bear (32:49)
Good job, Fester.
Grizz (33:02)
So I compare them to a lot of Eva's. I'm like, it's not that great. But then like I'm drinking it as I'm drinking it. I'm like, I'm really fucking enjoying this though. Like it's hard to not compare to other ones, but also like how much did I actually enjoy this? I would, I'd say the first half of this, was like, um, this is going to be like a C plus. And by the second, by the second half, I'm like, you know what? This is a B. This is, I really enjoy this. It's.
Ice Bear (33:15)
Sometimes you just gotta live in the moment.
Grizz (33:33)
It's great. It's good. I think I got a four pack of this and I'm going to enjoy all the other three equally and I'm looking forward to it. So this is a B.
Ice Bear (33:43)
Excellent.
Very good. Now that I'm holding it next to my face, I'm having a flashback. I feel like I have had this one before, but if I haven't, this time it's an A-.
Grizz (34:00)
Ooooo
Ice Bear (34:02)
can like pumpkin beer a lot, man. It's a really good flavor.
Grizz (34:06)
I think I've had one pumpkin beer in my life.
I think I think I need to get a pumpkin beer. I need to get one to try it.
Ice Bear (34:16)
I
think you should get a shirt that says I'm a littler pumpkin.
Grizz (34:27)
The smallest pumpkin salad.
Ice Bear (34:29)
I am the smallest pumpkin slap. There's never been a smaller pumpkin slap. All right. All right. My second one I'm excited for because I'm going to need utensils for it.
⁓ let's get my, let's get my key chain out by the way, hockey season starting soon. Go Habs Go.
Grizz (34:56)
I will be in the...
Ice Bear (34:59)
That is why I'm wearing my Habbie's hat.
I'm saving my Jays for ⁓ tomorrow where they will battle the evil Yankees.
Grizz (35:13)
Wonder what that's like here up here in all Land where?
Ice Bear (35:17)
yeah, the Mariners
that starts tomorrow too, huh? And they got who the Tigers?
Grizz (35:20)
Yep. So that's a huge
thing. Yeah. Yeah. Detroit.
Ice Bear (35:26)
That'll be a good series. They're both going to be good. All right.
Grizz (35:28)
Yeah. So they
have that. And then tomorrow you have, you have the Mariners game. It's at home and then Seahawks right after that. I know. Seahawks is right before. No, no, no. Yeah. It's right after cause it's Sunday. It's yeah. Saturday Mariners, Sunday Seahawks, and then the Sounders right after them.
Ice Bear (35:35)
Mm-hmm.
See you next Sunday. Yeah. ⁓
Yeah, I
believe the Krakens first game is Sunday or Monday. Yeah, it's a good day to be in Seattle. If you're a sports fan. All right, this is...
Grizz (35:52)
or wild.
Ice Bear (36:01)
and have a white slice I don't know how the fuck you say it. This is an imported extra strong beer from Giamatti. This is a bottle fermented from Schneider Wies. This is an 8.2.
Grizz (36:04)
Yeah.
No no no no no no no
Ooh.
Thank you. You've got me beat on the ABVs smally both times.
Ice Bear (36:37)
terrible head on that thing.
Grizz (36:40)
favor would have failed you.
Ice Bear (36:42)
my god, they absolutely... What a game! There were such fun minigames in Fable.
Grizz (36:46)
Yeah,
so cool. Just the idea that you could, it is really good.
Ice Bear (36:55)
What did you, do you remember? Can you think back? Do you remember what you did at the end? Did you do needs of the many needs of the few or whatever the save yourself one was?
Grizz (37:05)
so I, I did neither the many on like my regular run through. And then I did a run through where I wanted to be the most evil as I could be and selfish. I could be, I want to see how big I can make the horns and stuff. So yeah, so that one, just, and so the other run through I did was just complete self and then killing everybody. ⁓
Ice Bear (37:20)
Mmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guys spoilers if you haven't played fable 20 years later, I saved the puppy. I couldn't not save the puppy. When it happened, and he jumped in front of us like, No, losing, freaking out on the couch at my parents basement. And I was like, Okay, thank God. Thank God I can I can undo this shit.
Grizz (37:40)
Ugh.
So funny.
Ice Bear (37:58)
I haven't been that scared since I accidentally burst my favorite pinata and viva pinata.
Grizz (38:08)
Ha
ha ha!
Ice Bear (38:12)
All right, let's see what the Germans bring for us this time.
Okay, I'm pleasantly surprised. I get really scared with the European beers because they're so polarizing for me. Because as you know, like I've had one S tier.
And then I've had like lots of Fs.
Grizz (38:44)
I'm at the point.
I'm sorry Ukraine just ruined everything for me from like the Eastern
the eastern part of the west and I can't I can't I can't get behind any of them
Ice Bear (39:00)
can't dabble with those brewskis.
Grizz (39:03)
Now, German style beers like from Mexico aren't bad. Like, you know, like, you know, I'll drink those.
Ice Bear (39:11)
I'll deal with a Mexican. Look, I will deal with your inspiration, Germany, but not from you. Needed to be made by Mechens.
Grizz (39:19)
I like,
mean like, Dosakis is a German style beer. Right? And technically like, China is, you know, like, so I'll give you all that. But I'm just saying, Ukraine ruined it for y'all.
Ice Bear (39:23)
those X.
Grizz (39:44)
Anyways.
Ice Bear (39:49)
We get another email from Thailand being like, you've lost our respect. You leave Gloria Zelinsky alone.
Grizz (39:49)
If they had a better beer, if they had a better beer, might've been changed.
So you know what? Sometimes to me, for me, my beer is from Matchless Beer. Or Matchless Brewery or whatever the fuck it But it's Matchless. And I believe these are the same guys that gave me the beautiful Meaza, which I loved. Still love.
Ice Bear (40:25)
Yowza!
Grizz (40:28)
This one right here is a West coast double EEPA, which I'm happy cause it's a double West coast styles. So I go back and forth of whether I like them or not. Sometimes they're extremely mid and other times they're good, but I've had a couple of West coasts that I love. I am. I don't know what I feel about this one, but the can makes me really want it. And I see this hop sink, Centennial hops.
Not bad. Simcoe hops, not bad. The Mojtieco ones, whatever the fuck it's called. You know, I've had some good beers with that minute. And then CitroHops, love them. Great. Now the grains. Pilsner, dextrose, and Vienna sausages. The descriptors, this is big. This is citrus, and it's juicy. This is from Tumwater, Washington.
Ice Bear (40:59)
Okay. Okay.
⁓ no.
Grizz (41:28)
from
Matchless. This is the West Coast Double Leap, or this is the Hoppy Giant.
Ice Bear (41:40)
Send me a picture of that. The seal will love that.
She's been trying to get me to watch that movie for a long time.
Grizz (41:44)
I shot. I
do. It is a fantastic fucking movie.
Ice Bear (41:51)
I'm sure it is. She said it, you say it. I hold your two opinions in the highest of regards, so I'm sure I'll love it. We've just never gotten around to it.
Grizz (41:58)
Yeah. The only,
the only thing with this movie that I am bitter about is that in the very beginning, this boy pulls out a Twinkie, which I don't like Twinkies because it tastes chemically and nothing, but he quickly gets a Twinkie and he gets, he gets ready whip, which I also am not a huge fan of, but he gets the ready whip and he puts it at the end of the Twinkie and he extra fills it.
where it out and he eats it and that shit looks so fucking good that I thought I would like it too as a kid. And so I tried it and I hated everything about it. Who would have thought when you take something you hate and you take another thing you don't like and you put them together that you're really not gonna like it.
Ice Bear (42:42)
Yeah, yeah, pal, you probably you probably should have seen that coming.
Grizz (42:48)
He made it look so fucking good though. And I was like, you know what? Maybe I've been looking at this wrong this entire time.
Ice Bear (42:56)
Okay, sorry, I gotta get this out because there's something that immediately pops in my head. There is a cartoon that made me want something probably as bad as I've ever wanted anything, just because in this cartoon, the way they animated it and the reaction of the character was so intense that I was like, that has to be the most delicious
Grizz (43:19)
Ham, ham, and pan.
Ice Bear (43:22)
No, also yes, but no, that's not what I'm of. This is from the American classic, Doug. Douglas Funny. No, but also, yeah, that kind of made me want that, but no, there's an episode where he's in like a cooking like home ec class with Ye Olde Patty and Roger Klutz, and they're making pizza. No, they're making pizza.
Grizz (43:30)
liver and onions
is something with pickles right
Ice Bear (43:48)
And Roger like is being a dick and he fucks it up and they get bananas all over the pizza. And Doug's like having a crisis because he's like, ⁓ no, like my my my girl's not going to like me. I'm going to fail the class, blah, blah, blah. And then and then the teacher tries it. Douglas, yes, he funny. This is so delicious. And everyone tries it. And they're like, ⁓ fuck, this is amazing. And then the end of the episode, he's writing in his journal and he's just
dipping bananas and pizza sauce and munching on them. And so I'm like, that's got to be the greatest thing in the world. And let me tell you, it's not the greatest thing in the world.
Grizz (44:26)
I
bet the Swedish would love it.
Ice Bear (44:31)
God, yeah, they would. They absolutely would. Yes, yes, which insane. I would try them. Like I would try it. But it looked it seems insane.
Grizz (44:33)
You guys remember I showed you the Swedish tacos.
I would try it out.
You're to put cucumbers, chips, and fucking bananas in your tacos.
Ice Bear (44:49)
It's just too much. There were too many things.
I would try it, but it seems like it's way too much.
Grizz (45:01)
I would try it, also like you're lucky I made Ikea.
Ice Bear (45:07)
So I will also throw in this caveat it would have to be free someone had to have to be offering it to me like I'm not paying for that
Grizz (45:13)
That's true. That's true.
Yeah, and I'm not buying this shit to make it either.
Ice Bear (45:19)
No, neither am
Grizz (45:22)
That's fair. I would most definitely try to feel it offered to me. Or if we did it as a joke.
Ice Bear (45:22)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it's amazing how much lolz change. Are we? Are we? Yeah, are we torturing each other for a bit then? Yeah, yeah, I would. That's that's a very good point. It's so funny how just just doing a stupid bit makes things more tolerable.
Grizz (45:30)
They're not.
Yeah, like if we did it as a joke as if we're like together like you know what we're gonna fucking make you as a then it's funny
Ice Bear (45:57)
Little pumpkin sluts for the views.
Grizz (45:57)
The
end of this is real. It was interesting.
Ice Bear (46:03)
The end of ye old, ⁓ hold on, don't tell me. Cum water, cum water, what were you drinking from cum water? Show me the can again. I've totally blanked on what it looks like.
Grizz (46:16)
I'm gonna cover the name.
Ice Bear (46:17)
yeah, giant, ⁓
Grizz (46:20)
is the Hoppy Giant.
It starts off really bright and crisp like a West Coast. Pretty full bodied.
But there's this like a waxy-ish aftertaste, I guess. Some beers have like...
Ice Bear (46:38)
Ugh, I don't know how I feel about that.
Grizz (46:43)
Some beers have it and it's like, I'm always like, eh, about them when they do have it. And it's a touch of that here. So I'm like, cause it's like waxing and sour, like not sour, like a sour, like I don't know how to explain it.
Ice Bear (47:02)
Like an unintentional sour? Like a spoiled sour?
Grizz (47:05)
Cause it's not.
I would put it more towards spoiled sour, like it's definitely like, it's not that right. I guess like, I guess you taste in like the fermentation maybe, I guess. I don't know. I don't know what it is, but there are some beers where like they have like this kind of like waxy residue tasting and it is just like this tinge of like sourness to it.
or is tinge of sour, it's not like sour like pucker sour, but it's sour like, like yeah, like rotten, like it's bad, like it's turning.
like it smells like old it smells like the taste so like but a lot of beers have it or a lot of I've tasted these beers that you have it
Ice Bear (47:48)
Yeah, that doesn't sound good.
Grizz (48:00)
I've like the smell of like beef that you've had in the refrigerator for too long.
And so like when B starts going bad, it starts giving this viscous kind of thing on it. Um, so it's a tinge of like, it tastes like a tinge of that smell. That's the best way I can describe it. Cause that's what it reminds me of. And I'm sure if have this, you're like, what the fuck you talking about? But like it's, it's what it reminds me of. And it's, it's attached to this at the, at the end.
Ice Bear (48:14)
Sure. Yeah, yeah.
Uff... Nope.
No, don't want it.
No siri bob.
the flip side of things yield yield German lads ⁓ German boys did fine this is this is good I'm pleasantly surprised and as far as my European experiences goes this is my first mid one I'm I'm I'm thinking it's just like a solid B like I'm happy with it I I don't think I'd buy it again but I'm not had it I'm not sad I tried it
Grizz (49:00)
Mmm.
Ice Bear (49:10)
It's good. I'd recommend it if someone likes a European beer, a little German style.
The amount of it for the price is good because this is a big bottle. This is a half liter
Grizz (49:30)
I yeah, you said it was like 8.2, right?
Ice Bear (49:33)
PathLeader 8.2, it's pretty potent. And it was like $375, so not bad. Not bad. I also just, anytime I have a bottle, I'm like, this is nice. I miss glass bottles. Like, I like cans for the art. Like, I really like that aspect of them. But there's something, I don't know, there's something nice about a glass bottle of beer.
Grizz (49:37)
Yeah, that's not bad at all.
That's fair. One thing though, like...
The glass bottle distracted me. One thing...
Damn, I'm gonna extract it.
Ice Bear (50:13)
Something about Germany. Something about come water. Something about.
Grizz (50:23)
⁓
Ice Bear (50:27)
Don't lick your arm after that.
Grizz (50:29)
Yeah, I know.
thought I was going to do that anyways.
One thing though that I have not liked about, I've had some good beers from this area, but one thing that I'm being more more displaced about is that it's hard to like sevens and ups here. Cause a lot of these beers have been like six and under five, five and six.
Ice Bear (50:53)
they're weak boys.
I will say I have
noticed since you've been in the great pack Northwest a lighter ABV.
Grizz (51:09)
Yeah, and it's like, and it's like, I'm looking for heavier hitters, but like, it's, kind of hard. Like this is, this is eight. I'm anywhere like where I can find craft beer second, you know, maybe there's a better place. have no idea.
Ice Bear (51:14)
Where are you going for these? Where are you going?
like, because the what do call it the I don't know if it's still this way, but like Washington State when I was there had like a liquor control board. But now you can buy them anywhere I'm assuming
Grizz (51:36)
We're good.
Yeah, like these they have, I see them kind of everywhere. Even like in the little like, even in the little bodega stuff, like I've seen, you know, a decent mix for regular stores. Like see a bunch of Alacians, that Raven brewing wine. ⁓ You see a handful of local crafts and then you know, like food arrangers and things like that.
Ice Bear (51:59)
Hmm.
Hmm.
Let's do some investigating.
let's do some investigating for a little grizzle-bizzle
No, not bars, stores. Full throttle bottles. South Seattle. Best place. ⁓ Chuck's Hop Shop in North Seattle.
You go to one of those if you haven't already been.
Grizz (52:44)
most definitely haven't been to either one of those because I'm in downtown Seattle is where I'm at.
Ice Bear (52:53)
shit, alright, hold on. Best craft beer selection. Downtown Seattle? Downtown.
Grizz (52:58)
Yep.
Ice Bear (53:01)
just down to this brought up Toronto this is great good good job best
Grizz (53:10)
That's when he said downtown right and I remind him do you remember that Nellie or is like
Ice Bear (53:17)
Drop down,
get your gala on,
Grizz (53:20)
No, it was like Dan, would you see like Dan, Dan, Dan, you're streetin' in the Range Rover. Dan, Dan, baby, you're streetin' in the Range Rover. Ready to let it go. Yeah. Great song.
Ice Bear (53:28)
⁓
boom boom baby let it go shimmy shimmy go go go listen to it now yeah yes yes that's beautiful god that was art our rendition
was spot on yeah and
Grizz (53:43)
That's perfect.
You know, the tiger never heard that song. And I was like, no, he's the biggest song. And I was like, it's everywhere. I don't know. But I was like, it sounds everywhere. Like, like, like, that's like one of my biggest songs. Like that was like, and then she, no, no.
Ice Bear (53:46)
Wasn't that wasn't that in the end of white chicks to
I'm pretty sure the Wayans brothers had it in one of their movies.
I think that was the original. Like that was his first big hit, I'm pretty sure.
Grizz (54:04)
Yeah,
yeah, that's what I said. was just like, no. We'll see in the Range Rover. Ready to let it go.
Ice Bear (54:08)
down maybe not.
baby, ready to let it go, shimmy shimmy, go goodbye, listen to me now, light it up and
take a boat, pass it all around. Yeah, yeah, that was definitely, that was the first one, I think. I don't think there's anything before that.
Grizz (54:21)
Yeah.
Yeah. And then after that was what the Air Force ones and it's getting hot in here.
Ice Bear (54:29)
It's getting hot in here. H-U-R-R. That was the first thing that I ever saw on MTV that was like, it was spelled wrong incorrectly. And I was like, this bothers me and I don't know why.
Grizz (54:35)
And then, yeah.
Ice Bear (54:52)
Okay, all right. I'm gonna send this to you later. I've found several that I believe will be close by enough for you to venture to. That seem like they'll have a better selection because I'm just I'm surprised because I remember the craft beers I had out there are strong and I don't know if Tacoma is just like a I guess Tacoma is the more blue collar version of Seattle. Little gruffer. Little rougher around the edges.
Grizz (55:02)
Sounds good to me.
gruff. Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (55:23)
Fuck, drive down to Tacoma, it's not that far.
Take a day trip.
Grizz (55:29)
I
went to rent in and that's really nice.
Ice Bear (55:35)
Is that still like Microsoft land?
Grizz (55:41)
⁓ well, I didn't see my, I guess I didn't go too far into it. Cause like where I went in torrent and I went to the local Ikea and so I passed a gravel pit. I passed, ⁓ an airplane thing and then it's kind of it. And then like building stuff. like,
Ice Bear (56:00)
There was a stretch where everyone that lived there worked for Microsoft.
Grizz (56:05)
Really? In Renton?
Ice Bear (56:06)
Yeah,
was, yeah, it was just one of those things. It was just that for whatever reason, all the people gravitated there.
Grizz (56:11)
Cause it's where like I drive, I
drive PIOT and then like, it's like really ghetto looking apartments. And then like, see a bunch of porches and shit driving around and I'm like, ⁓ there's fucking money here somewhere.
Ice Bear (56:18)
Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Somewhere if you drive around long enough, you will find some insane neighborhoods with with the gated driveways.
Grizz (56:31)
Mm-hmm.
Ice Bear (56:33)
Mm-hmm. Yes sir. No Whipper Whales though. No Whipper Whales.
Grizz (56:35)
Yes.
I don't think Texas doesn't have any of those.
Ice Bear (56:48)
What's the bird of Texas? What's the Texan bird?
Grizz (56:55)
See in some Rock and Bird.
Ice Bear (56:57)
The mocking word?
Grizz (56:59)
I want to say so. Let's see.
Ice Bear (57:02)
⁓ Great book. Great book.
That was, Kill a Mockingbird is like one of the only like assigned high school readings I ever truly enjoyed.
Grizz (57:15)
⁓ Northern Mockingbird is a state bird of Texas.
Ice Bear (57:22)
I what Washington is the the eagle of some kind.
Grizz (57:23)
⁓
Fucking turkey vulture
Ice Bear (57:40)
We know we got to find this out. We need to know the state bird of Washington. The people of Thailand need to know. It's the fucking American goldfinch.
I'm disappointed. don't know why I'm disappointed by that, but I'm disappointed. I wanted you to have a big cool bird.
Grizz (58:04)
I guess I'm big as some Ravens over here. It's gonna be as crows over here. It's really cool. It's cool seeing those over here. Cause like in Texas, the only a Ravens you see are Mexican Ravens. And there's, they're a little smaller than the normal ones.
Ice Bear (58:04)
It's.
Yeah, absolutely.
I didn't know that I didn't know there was a distinction.
Grizz (58:19)
Yeah.
Yeah, and so they're a little smaller, but like their migratory path goes through Texas. So the ones you see are there. You see a lot of the grackles, some crows, and then you see like the Mexican Ravens and they're like a little smaller than regular Ravens. So it is cool seeing these big ass guys just kind of just chilling all the time.
So that's been cool.
Ice Bear (58:47)
So what do we know with certainty? One, we know Ol' Grizz reeks of machismo. We know Ol' Ice Bear is a little pumpkin slut. And we know this podcast is here for educational experiences. With that in mind, do you know what color a raven is?
Grizz (59:13)
Is this some shit like, black's not a color, it's a shade.
Ice Bear (59:18)
No, no, no, no, this is much cooler. Ravens are iridescent. They look black, but if you like pop out one of their like rainbow color, they're wild looking.
Grizz (59:30)
⁓ like the feathers and stuff. That's why they have the sheens. Some have the purple sheen or the green sheen or sheen. Yeah, that is really cool though. Yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (59:32)
Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah, their feathers are iridescent. They're really neat. Ravens are such and I
also like that their beaks are like not sharp. They're like kind of kind of rounded. Yeah, yeah. Great.
Grizz (59:45)
It's it's correct a little bit. Yeah, I do like how it's correct and
they have a little they have a little toughed right at the boat like the top of the beak. You know what mean? A little tough to like furry feathers like it's it's cool. They're great. They're fucking awesome.
Ice Bear (59:54)
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong,
I like a crow too, but ravens are a top tier bird. Top tier.
Grizz (1:00:12)
to unkindness.
Ice Bear (1:00:15)
of kindness or ravens.
on Kynasaravan's Murderer Crows.
Grizz (1:00:20)
That's so
fucking cool. Everything about him is so cool.
Ice Bear (1:00:23)
Yeah. You know, I like to think a group of ravens would be fairly kind. I think that's us being judgy as people. They're not doing anything mean. They're just eating shit.
Grizz (1:00:35)
Dude,
I totally get why though. Like why they're looked as like bad omens and demons and shit. I can imagine, you know, you not knowing things and like just things before and you go when you're walking in the forest, you're walking in whatever and you see this big ass black bird and you hear just like, all right. ⁓ hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?
You know what mean? Like, yeah, like a demon.
Ice Bear (1:01:09)
Why? Why do you do such a good Raven impression? It's really weird. Such a weird talent to have in your back pocket.
Grizz (1:01:13)
You
I really like Ravens.
Ice Bear (1:01:22)
But
you're bang on, they do kind of like croak, it's a weird noise.
Grizz (1:01:28)
So like, totally understand why they were seen as like, you know, like premonitions of evil and shit. could, cause just imagine that, like, like when you see things like in the world, right. And you see like how, like the land looks like it's breathing because of air pockets and shit. And then like pulses and stuff from like, you imagine like not knowing anything and being like, all you know is.
Ice Bear (1:01:51)
Mmm, yeah.
Grizz (1:01:58)
some things of like old beliefs passed down and you walk into the land of the breathes. You know what mean? Like and shit like that. Like
Ice Bear (1:02:07)
Yeah,
that would be intense. That would be very intense.
Yeah.
Grizz (1:02:17)
Cause
like this shit that we see now that's like crazy, the like our monkey brains are like, and we got the whole fucking internet. You know what I mean? Yeah. These people that have none of that shit and they see it like.
Ice Bear (1:02:23)
You
I 100 % see how any and all myths got perpetuated pre-internet. especially if you had a convincing person, like a charismatic person telling you it, you'd buy Hook, Hook, Line and Sinker. No, no problem at all.
Grizz (1:02:45)
Yeah. I
met imagine going back to Europe where they have no bears or like large apex predators in one of the like people that discovered the lands and like the U S area or like this, this region. And like they came across a fucking grizzly bear. Imagine like trying to describe that over there by somebody that's never seen anything close to it. You know what I mean? Like it's yeah.
Ice Bear (1:03:12)
or a buffalo, or a puma.
There's a cat up in the branches that's 300 pounds. What?
Grizz (1:03:25)
or them trying to describe a fucking elephant.
Ice Bear (1:03:30)
my god, or or the noise elk make like elk during breeding season like just that is the most terrifying noise.
Grizz (1:03:31)
You like
Yeah, because Elks are fucking creepy
Yeah. Yeah. Imagine that knowing Elks exist and you're in the woods and you hear that fucking like, yeah. And then you see this thing or they see a moose for the first time and it's this fucking hulking giant that's bigger than fucking two of you standing on each other's shoulders. That's also fast as fuck. They can swim underwater.
Ice Bear (1:03:45)
Yeah, in the woods at night and you hear that. ⁓ my God. Yeah.
Yeah.
my God, yeah,
that's, yeah. That to me is the weirdest thing I've learned this year. The fact that they can dive. I had no idea. Just, can you imagine being a person that goes down to a stream, you're taking a bath and just rinsing off and you think, I'm gonna dunk my head in it. And then you see a moose head the size of your body in front of your face, because it was underwater when you walked in.
Grizz (1:04:15)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, there's that there's a video that kind of went like semi viral, like not to like probably a year ago at this point of they went underwater with a camera like a GoPro or whatever. And you see a fucking moose underwater and going. It's fucking crazy.
Ice Bear (1:04:50)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, moose are wild. They're such wild animals.
Grizz (1:04:57)
Yeah, moose
are one of my favorite animals as like when I was young, like in middle school. And it started off as a joke because like me being all counterculture and snarky was like, I always made fun of how people will always just, and it's like just out of social awkwardness or kind of to keep things going. They'll just like agree with you about a fact or something. You know what I mean?
Ice Bear (1:05:25)
Mmm.
Grizz (1:05:25)
We're like,
did you know this is like, Oh yeah, I heard that. And like, you know, for sure they didn't hear that. And so like me being a snarky kid, I'm like, Oh yeah, you know. And so, uh, I got it from Jimmy Neutron. Cause there's an episode where they go to like the petting zoo or whatever. There's an episode they go to the petting zoo and Carl is scared of the pigs and Carl goes like, Mr. Pig. Like, I know you can kill somebody with one swoop of your mighty tail. Right.
Ice Bear (1:05:28)
Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (1:05:54)
And so I took that. Right. And I really, I already really liked moose, but I know they got a little small tails. And so we talk about favorite animals to talk about the moose. And then I would say, did you know they can kill, they can kill a man or once who, once who of their mighty tail. And he will be like, Oh yeah, I heard that. And so like, I would always laugh right internally. Like you fucking idiot. Not knowing that moose were fucking crazy ass killing machine tanks.
Ice Bear (1:05:56)
Ha ha.
Yeah.
Grizz (1:06:23)
I had no idea that they were fucking that aggressive. It's the whole time I was playing myself the entire time.
Ice Bear (1:06:31)
They really did hear it. You were just uneducated on moose. All right, here's one. Here's one for our beloved Thai audience. Do you know what the dangly bit, that giant testicular sack hanging from a moose chin is called?
Grizz (1:06:50)
No, I do actually genuinely do not.
Ice Bear (1:06:53)
So there's two things. The technical answer is a do lap.
do lap and then colloquially a bell.
Grizz (1:07:04)
Interesting.
Ice Bear (1:07:05)
So I learned that this year and the reason is because my workplace, we have a lot of art featuring moose. And there's one that's like a four by four painting. It's a really big painting. And so this thing just hanging off its chin, I'm like, what the fuck is that? Is that a mistake? Like, is this AI? And then like, I start looking at pictures of moose and like, no, they actually have this big dangly like turkey thing hanging from their necks. And yeah, so I looked at, it's called a doulape.
but apparently some people call it a bell. So there you go, Thailand, you're welcome. Can we go to 17 now? Please. Thank you.
Grizz (1:07:47)
McFennell ladyboys if you get us 15.
Ice Bear (1:07:52)
The email comes in you're now five thousand ninety seven
Grizz (1:07:56)
No, ⁓
Ice Bear (1:08:01)
We meant we we love we just we love you. That's it. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Now.
Grizz (1:08:10)
Thailand
does look dope as fuck though. Also, is Tony Chow from Thailand, right?
Ice Bear (1:08:19)
Tony Ja is... Is he Thai? Let's, let's, let's... I mean that's... Tony Ja... Tony Ja is what? 2 A's right? JAA? Thai stunt actor. Whoa. This is very upsetting to learn that his real name is not Tony Ja. His real name is Tachikorn Yuram.
Grizz (1:08:23)
Nice talent. Yeah, I it's Also, Muay Thai. Muay Thai is like the coolest fucking fire form ever, too.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
At least it's not like fucking Hector.
Ice Bear (1:08:52)
touched a
Hector Smith now Tony John
Grizz (1:08:57)
Reginald,
Reginald Watson, born in fucking, born in Baltimore. See like that would have been genuinely upsetting.
Ice Bear (1:09:01)
Reginald B Watson of
his his his real name is more tie which makes me happy. Yes. Talk to corn Europe. My I'm so sorry tie if I'm pronouncing this wrong known for own buck breakthrough 2003 he is from Surin, Thailand.
less Tony. He's a bitch. ⁓ he's a he's a he's a he's a little person. He's only five, six. had no idea.
Grizz (1:09:42)
Yeah, a five, six with a knee against your head.
Ice Bear (1:09:46)
Yeah, he'd absolutely wreck me. I'm not trying to say that. He'd destroy me in a fight, but he's much shorter than I expected.
Grizz (1:09:49)
I'm
Ice Bear (1:09:57)
Do you think like okay, so you and I are above average height Do you think if you're like a basketball player and you're like six six and up? Do you think you look at? Normal society the same way you and I look at like a five four guy
Grizz (1:10:17)
You have to, right? I imagine you have to because it's all relative.
Ice Bear (1:10:23)
So if you're Shaq, just everyone is an ant and it's like you're a cute little person, you just want to tap them on the head.
Grizz (1:10:30)
don't think so. I don't see how.
because like it has to because.
You know, we've had.
partner significant others that are what? Almost a foot shorter than us.
Ice Bear (1:10:53)
Yeah, seals way shorter.
Grizz (1:10:54)
and we see them like,
⁓ cute, small, right?
Ice Bear (1:10:57)
That's true.
Grizz (1:11:00)
but they would see another person just as regular.
Ice Bear (1:11:05)
Mmm.
Grizz (1:11:06)
Just
eye level. You know what mean?
Ice Bear (1:11:08)
I feel like this is also an inherently like masculine thing. I bet tall women there's a point where they're like, I'm too tall.
Whereas like with a guy, it's just... Go ahead.
Grizz (1:11:21)
Sure, but also.
Yeah, sure, but like Like it might be a thing where I'm too tall But it'd also be like and the same thing is like I'm too tall cuz I look at these small ass man like a small these small little fellas like you know what I mean like and the dude's like 510 and he's like, you know, It's the same thing just the other side of the coin
Ice Bear (1:11:48)
Have I ever told you my bit where I really like to say if I'm around someone's like 510 or 511, I love to say I'm 5'9".
It's my favorite thing because it destroys them because they're like, I'm obviously, know, like three, maybe four inches taller than them. And then wait, what? No, I'm because they always want to say they're like six feet or six one. And he's like, No, sorry, man. I'm five, nine. I don't know to tell you.
Grizz (1:12:08)
Yeah.
That's so fucking funny because like because I'm like right over six Right, so I'm like right over six and so if somebody there was like six two was like, I'm six feet or I'm five 11 I'm like Have I been fucking lying? I've had one of those dudes that have been lying this entire time like did my doctor fucking lie to me like like am I
Ice Bear (1:12:39)
That's...
Grizz (1:12:44)
Like it, don't want to be one of those guys. Like have I been one of these guys this entire time? And I didn't, I would second guess, fuck it, everything. Cause I'm like, I'm not six one, right? I'm right between the two. So that's cutting it close. So if I were to get the thing where I'm like, wait, have you been lying this entire time? And then I'd be like, ⁓ I'm fucking one of those guys. Really? I'm one of those guys.
Ice Bear (1:12:55)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You
Grizz (1:13:12)
That was Paco, genuinely.
Ice Bear (1:13:13)
I,
when I was like, maybe 16, 17, I don't know, like high school, finishing my last couple of growth spurts. And so my dad and I are by far the shortest people in our family, like on his side. My dad's like, pretty much your height, like a little like 6'6", 6.05, you know, like in between 6'6", one.
Grizz (1:13:25)
Mm-hmm.
Damn.
Ice Bear (1:13:41)
And I had one of those height charts as white people do in like on the doorframe. like, so like my height got charted as I grew and like friends that came over, they'd mark my height.
Grizz (1:13:49)
Every time, every time I saw that,
yeah. Every time I saw that I was so jealous because, because it's me as a youth, would be me as a youth, would move all the time. Like, right. Like I moved fucking a lot. Right. And so like, anytime I saw like where people had, I had a couple of friends who had the whole height on the door frame thing. was like, damn, you've been here for that long. Like that's fucking awesome. Like, you know what I mean? Like.
Ice Bear (1:13:57)
It's fun.
Yeah. Yeah.
Right. Yeah, it's wild. It's it's it's
looking back in hindsight like what a fucking privilege It is that my parents were able to like hold down a house that long good for them ⁓ So yeah, I had that height chart thing And I remember as I was getting older, you know, like because when we first moved into the house we did me and It's you know, I moved in when I was maybe like eight. So like four seven or something
Grizz (1:14:20)
Yeah.
Yeah, like it's fucking it's so fucking cool
Mm-hmm.
Ice Bear (1:14:41)
And my mom who was like five two and my dad who's you know, like just a hair over six feet tall. And so as I'm growing, I'm seeing the thing like inch up and get closer and closer and closer and then finally, finally I'm taller than my dad. And I could just fucking destroyed him. just broke him.
Grizz (1:14:59)
Yeah. Cause there's always that thing, right? Like, cause even like there was the time like, it's funny cause like, it's definitely a much he's more thing, but like, there was the thing of where I undoubtedly pushed more weight than my father ever had. Like, but again, I got into, I got into power lifting. I got into, so he was football. He lifted weights like football style, right? Football style and like bro lifting. That's all my dad ever did.
Ice Bear (1:15:11)
Mmm.
⁓ man, would be...
Yeah.
Grizz (1:15:28)
I got in power of things. got built strength. like in the, yeah, like no shit. I'm going to get stronger than you because like I'm working for strength. was just a big fucking dude through the football too. Right. He has a fucking defensive end and fucking just lifted, right. Cause he wanted to like have big arms and look good. Right. So like, so, but no shit, I got stronger things. was looking for strength, but like when it undoubtedly, when he was like, here's like the heaviest list I've ever done. And then we're lifting together and like,
Ice Bear (1:15:29)
Yeah. Yeah.
Mm.
Grizz (1:15:58)
You know all the stuff and he showed me the things and there was undoubtedly a point in my early 20s where I lifted more than he ever did and Then I just kept going you know what I mean like it was there was definitely this like I'm proud of you as my son for getting so strong, but also like
Ice Bear (1:16:19)
I
hate you for being stronger than me. Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (1:16:23)
But you know what I mean, like there's definitely that like that
warring thing.
Ice Bear (1:16:31)
Yeah, dude, this is like, okay, we're gonna we're gonna let people behind the veil a little bit. Many moons ago, your beloved Grizz and old ice bear were were just palling around lifting in a fairly popular gymnasium in the city of Los Angeles. And and old Grizz dawned a delightful kigurumi and just proceeded to squat big boy numbers.
And my favorite part about that was like, think after you like threw on the fourth plate, everyone was like, what the fuck is happening? Like, it's just like not a lot of people that can squat that. So it was just like wrecking people. What did you work up to?
Grizz (1:17:15)
No, I think we just stopped that because I think I think I stopped that ⁓ I think I stopped at 415 and We were just doing triples, but the issue was that it was like a height of summer so it was like 90 degrees in that gym and and like Kegus aren't built for barbells so that the bar was just slipping off and So like it was just like okay. I'm gonna stop here. So I did it for a triple
Ice Bear (1:17:23)
Okay.
That was so hot. my God, it was hot in there.
No, no, that was not good. No, that was bad.
Grizz (1:17:44)
And then after that, it's like, what's like, okay, we'll stop here.
Ice Bear (1:17:48)
Yeah, that was that was a rough gym to be in in the summer because they like why don't they have air conditioning for a gym that's that expensive? Insane to not have air conditioning.
Grizz (1:17:59)
And that's her, which
I don't mind it in warehouse gyms, but like if her crossing on charges prices, it's like, bro. I'm saying, ⁓
Ice Bear (1:18:08)
That's my issue. My issue
is the price. like, what was our drop in like, it was 20 bucks, wasn't it? For a drop in. And I
Grizz (1:18:13)
Yeah, I think yeah, because I remember
that because we had to throw it a week. I remember spending like Yeah, just just for me was like 120. I guess man like just going to the gym
Ice Bear (1:18:25)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, that's honestly.
Grizz (1:18:31)
And that was the thing too, like. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:18:35)
You you putting up the above 400 for a triple after as much walking as we did and the caffeine fatigue from we had like fucking 50 white monsters on that counter. There was so much.
Grizz (1:18:56)
And then when people wanted to come to the Airbnb, it's like, bring a case of white monsters. Like you're coming as you bring a case of white monsters.
Ice Bear (1:18:56)
This bad.
Man, yeah that was a lot of caffeine. But necessary, and a good time.
Grizz (1:19:12)
That was funny.
That was a good time. You know what's funny is remember when we to that boba shop with the fucking Shiba Inu boba cups.
Ice Bear (1:19:25)
Yes. Yeah.
Grizz (1:19:26)
Yeah,
I was talking about, ⁓ the tiger collected a bunch of their cubs and she's like, I'll do this thing. was like, ⁓ shit. was, that was fast for.
Ice Bear (1:19:36)
Yeah, yeah, that was fun. That was fun.
Grizz (1:19:37)
Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:19:40)
I'm trying to think the other ⁓
and then we went to that weird little grocery store. Yeah, that was a fun trip.
Grizz (1:19:51)
yeah, it was cool. was, yeah. And then we went to the
food truck.
Ice Bear (1:19:56)
food truck was good.
Grizz (1:19:58)
Yeah, food show was really good.
Ice Bear (1:20:00)
Yeah, yeah, there's there's some nice things about LA. I'll give them credit. There's some there's some stuff here and there.
Grizz (1:20:05)
No,
I do like certain things.
It's one where like, I don't know, man, like there's certain shit like. Honestly, every time I go visit the Tigers and the whole old Tigerland, I'm like, you know what? It's not that bad. And then like I'm buying shit and I'm like, ⁓ fuck it. I can't do this anymore.
Ice Bear (1:20:28)
Ha ha.
Yeah
Grizz (1:20:34)
I'm here. I'm here rejoicing for fucking $5 guests. Yeah. And then like, okay, look, luckily with the tiger and I go like, we go to like Pasadena and all of the surrounding areas. So it's not as bad, but then you go to like LA LA and like, I'm paying fucking an arm and a leg for a place that smells like piss and fucking vomit.
Ice Bear (1:20:35)
It is comically overpriced for no reason.
Mm-hmm.
No thanks.
Grizz (1:21:04)
I got,
it's just, don't know, man. Like I get all the cool shit and that's all cool, but like.
Ice Bear (1:21:07)
No thanks.
Grizz (1:21:14)
When you're used to all the stuff, become numb to it, but you don't realize that like normal life isn't that. And you can be, you don't have to accept the smell of vomit and fucking moldy milk and piss every time you walk past buildings. Like you don't have to accept it. that's not, that's not normal.
Ice Bear (1:21:22)
Mm.
It's not.
Grizz (1:21:39)
be fair in Seattle like you get the smell of fucking you get the smell of piss and fucking meth but like in certain areas like
Ice Bear (1:21:48)
That is
I would say the most immediate thing as an American when you come to Maple Land is air quality. Like the minute you step outside, your nostrils like don't recognize what to do with it. You're like, what is this? What is this? And you're like, ⁓ that's right. That's air. Air is supposed to be nice like that.
Grizz (1:22:13)
How is Toronto compared to like where you are? Because Toronto is a metropolitan area.
Ice Bear (1:22:21)
Still, I would say like vastly better than any American city, it is like compared to out here. It's it you notice it.
Grizz (1:22:28)
Yes, so.
Yeah. So think like LA DC, right? Like those areas, right? Like, because DC air quality is not great, but it's better than LA for sure.
Ice Bear (1:22:37)
Yeah. Yeah.
DC's
not great, but it is definitely better than LA. Same with Baltimore.
Yeah.
Grizz (1:22:51)
Yeah,
so like Toronto to DC is still better.
Ice Bear (1:22:55)
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
Grizz (1:22:56)
Yeah, damn.
And do you think that's, so I would say air quality in Seattle is significantly better than DC, LA, and maybe even some of the Texas, like better than Houston should. Because Seattle is interesting because it could, because like sands all the drugs and all the other shit, whatever, right? You are still like in rainforest climate and like, like this, it's very green. So.
Ice Bear (1:23:10)
Yeah, I think so too.
Yes. Yeah.
Grizz (1:23:26)
Seattle is interesting because like a lot of things I hate about city Seattle has but there's so much there's much there's a lot of other stuff I'm like this is a bit you don't mean like that's a lot of other things that make me like That damn pin the stuff I hate about large cities
Ice Bear (1:23:30)
Mm-hmm.
Yep, I can see that. Yeah. The Puget Sound does a lot for just quality of life. Yeah, that whole Pac Northwest evergreen environment is very good for just existing as a person. Air quality is good.
Grizz (1:24:01)
Yeah, because
one of the things, it's like, and I was talking about this with some coworkers and I was like.
I don't, I know like Seattle's are, let's say Arboretum is like a thing, but like, don't get how it's much of a thing here. Like having an Arboretum and having like, it's man me like pretty area of like foliage and stuff makes sense in like Houston, even Dallas, like in LA, like where it's just like these concrete fucking things. But there's so much green here in Seattle. It's like, kind of don't need it.
Ice Bear (1:24:27)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I don't think you need it. I think that's for I think the arbitoriums are for really for like ⁓
Grizz (1:24:41)
You know what mean?
Ice Bear (1:24:50)
your plant enthusiasts that want to see like a weird species that you wouldn't encounter in the forest there. Like I need to see a rare, you know, like Lithuanian marigold or something.
Grizz (1:24:57)
That's fair.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fair because to me, an artorium in Seattle is basically arts installation, right? It's like, how am going to make this shit look pretty as opposed to like, because there's nature surrounding you so much over here that it's like, it's not needed.
Ice Bear (1:25:12)
Yep. Yep.
Mm-hmm.
100%.
Grizz (1:25:23)
Because like the arbitrary like in Dallas feels like a fucking sanctuary. It feels like it's it's it's beautiful. It's art. all stuff but like in Dallas specifically, you leave Dallas. There's a lot of stuff but like in Dallas specifically like it's you know, it's a little concrete jungle. It's not as bad as Houston but it is that.
Ice Bear (1:25:41)
Yep. DC's the same.
It feels like a nice like little refuge from the, from the bullshit.
Grizz (1:25:49)
Yeah. Like Houston, I don't even know if he has an arbitrary, but they fucking need one. Houston is fucking horrid because it feels like. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:25:56)
I would assume they do. That's
a big city. I would think they have to.
Grizz (1:26:00)
Yeah, yeah,
because because it because Houston feels like you're literally within a big ass fucking cement block
Ice Bear (1:26:08)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:26:10)
Nothing feels natural in Houston.
Ice Bear (1:26:21)
Well, as you know, I, being a master of segues, ⁓ how's your second beer?
Grizz (1:26:30)
⁓ so all the complaining I did, it's like rotten meat and stuff like that. As I got to the second half, it went away.
So like, ⁓ if, if I gave my boy faster, the bad Jackalope.
Ice Bear (1:26:48)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:26:50)
Single IPA or IPA B.
Hoppy Giant has a BB plus because it is better. Hoppy Giant is better than Fester.
Ice Bear (1:27:01)
Nice. Good
job, Hoppy Giant. let me tell you.
⁓ My lad here, my little Hopfenweis, my Unt Hopfenweis. ⁓ This is, it's not pumpkin slut level, but it is good. I dare say this is a B plus beer. Right on the coattails of the pumpkin pie PA. Good time. Good beers tonight.
Grizz (1:27:15)
Yeah.
Mmm.
⁓
You can't say 9999 to that. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:27:44)
All right. All right. That'll do, Peg. That'll do.
Grizz (1:27:49)
I did a whole ass actual actual thing earlier. You just didn't catch it.
Ice Bear (1:27:56)
no, what did I miss?
Grizz (1:27:58)
No, when you were describing it, I went, nine, nine.
The whole Angloise bastard. You just didn't register it.
Ice Bear (1:28:11)
I can't believe I missed it.
Oh no, I was so excited about presenting it to the public that I missed your your inglorious bit.
Huh.
Well.
Grizz (1:28:25)
I think I it was good. I think it was really good.
So we got, I got a B and a B plus. You got a B and an A minus.
Ice Bear (1:28:36)
Mm-hmm.
B plus A minus.
Grizz (1:28:42)
and just squeaked on a little higher than I think it was good. And I'm happy with this combination too. ⁓
Ice Bear (1:28:43)
Good work. Puttin' Mm-hmm.
That is a nice combo. ⁓
Grizz (1:29:03)
Look at that beauty.
Ice Bear (1:29:07)
⁓
Thanks,
Thailand.
Grizz (1:29:13)
Thanks, Thailand, you know what? Look, Thailand, I love y'all. I love Tony Jaa. I love elephants. And... ⁓
What else?
Ice Bear (1:29:29)
Go Jace, go Mariners.
Grizz (1:29:36)
sure I'll back the birds even more. I don't really care about the Mariners. My boys didn't do too hot with the Mariners the last couple times though. I'm a little bitter. But let's the birds fly.
Ice Bear (1:29:53)
Fly Birds Fly