Grizz (00:31)
⁓
Ice Bear (00:34)
What a majestic start, just breathing heavily in people's ears.
Grizz (00:39)
What if I
just cut it out and nobody knows what you're talking about?
Ice Bear (00:43)
That would be mean.
Now that's how you start an episode. Seven to ten seconds of dead silence. With maybe, maybe the slightest of effervescent bubbling. Just to get the people going.
now we got the, are we doing ASMR episode? ⁓ it's the ASMR episode.
Grizz (01:14)
I genuinely hate that with like a passion.
Ice Bear (01:20)
⁓ I love a good ASMR. You know, you know, I like my Turkish barbers. You know, I like, you know, I like seeing Middle-Age Greek man slap some titties around.
Grizz (01:22)
I can't stand. can't. Turkish barber is the most.
It's most wild one in the world.
Ice Bear (01:34)
For clarity,
man titties audience, man titties. Though he, every now and again, he has a woman on there and the headline is always, it's very weird. It feels sketchy anytime that, cause he's like Turkish barber sends female client into ecstasy. like, all right, settle down there, fella. Settle down.
Grizz (01:44)
Is it equal opportunity?
Alright PornHub, let's go.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Like, ⁓ it is always such like it is the most random. I'll say the most random pick for ASMR.
Ice Bear (02:14)
So here's the thing with the Turkish barbers. All of them started out normal. Every single one of them, because there's about four that are pretty popular now. Like their videos all get quarter mil views on average. Every single one of them started out doing like haircut, maybe a shave, and then some combination of like scalp rub, shoulder massage. And as they got more popular, they all started to one up each other.
Grizz (02:25)
Mm-hmm. Insane.
Hahaha!
Ice Bear (02:43)
on weird
devices. like, you know what, you know what would make this massage a little bit better? A little suction cup device that I'm going to like, up a guy's cheek every 30 seconds for the next six minutes. It's so bizarre.
Grizz (03:00)
What is a suction cup thing supposed to do?
Ice Bear (03:03)
just make a weird noise. In terms of comfort or functionality, they're clearly doing nothing because the people getting these massages are like laughing or frowning. It's never a good reaction.
Grizz (03:05)
All is it.
Do you think the guys that go there get like, know what they're going into? At this point in time, but in the beginning, do you think?
Ice Bear (03:23)
They have to.
The first guy was like, why the fuck are you putting a candle in my nostril right now?
Grizz (03:33)
Cause it's like one of those,
like you seem like the memes of the barbers will do like, like really stuff. Like they'll be like, whatever.
Ice Bear (03:43)
Yeah, yeah, sometimes you just want to let the pet your lower lip.
Grizz (03:44)
or you know, be in or like, or he'll be kind of dozing off. Yeah.
he'll be like, I think the most like diabolical one was when, ⁓ the guy's trying to shave this area. And so he goes,
And the guy was like what the fuck
Ice Bear (04:05)
I have never seen that. I can say, I think fairly safely.
There are not a lot of things someone could do to set off my comfort level, like in terms of a sexually violated perspective. If another grown man puts his fingers in my mouth, I am going to be very weirded out. That's my limit.
Grizz (04:31)
Yeah,
that one's up there. I think the only one that tops out is if a very, very, very giant man that likes to walk away from cameras with his cheeks out and tells me he's going to do something until I love him. I think that's the other one. I think that's that's the one that is going to win that I'm going to.
Ice Bear (04:37)
Not the fish hook.
you
All 27 listeners from last week are having a massive Mike Tyson chuckle.
That's what you get, Spain. You get callback humor every week.
Grizz (05:09)
Spain took over the ties.
Ice Bear (05:14)
you know what we forgot to do? We forgot to tell people what we're drinking. This is what this is what's wrong with jazz. Sometimes it's a little too free bird.
Grizz (05:18)
Introduce the beer. Damn. All right. But here's the here's see, here's the thing.
Now, you know what it actually is, it's just been a long setup because we were kind of just caught in a vortex right now. So you're just caught in the vortex. The spiral of jazz.
Ice Bear (05:35)
Well done, sir. ⁓
God, that's very good.
Grizz (05:42)
Hey Fort George did it again with the vortex right here. This is a vortex EPA Vortex is a west coast. Eva crafted in Astoria For the bold and the curious in 2007 or tornado nearly scattered our brewhouse To the wind and as we trucked it from Virginia to the rugged coast of Oregon There's still a bit of nature's intensity in every pint
Ice Bear (05:59)
Damn. Bless you.
Grizz (06:10)
is a 16 fluid ounces of 7.2.
Ice Bear (06:18)
Damn, Alk by volume 7.2, buckaroo. Well, mine is, you've emasculated my beer because mine is a simple five. But what it lacks in punch makes up for in flavor. This is a cherry swirled blueberry twisted cranberry dunked blackberry mashed fizz finished. ⁓
Grizz (06:22)
7.2 GORILLA
Ice Bear (06:47)
Dark Berry Sour from Side Lunch.
Grizz (06:50)
That sounds fucking awesome. it?
So, excuse me, how do you, how do you finish with his?
Ice Bear (06:59)
Okay, have you had a what do call them? A ⁓ bubbly a buble? However you say that beverage? Like the carbonated water? Yeah, he advertised them at one point. Yeah.
Grizz (07:09)
Like the singer?
really?
that the never gonna give you up guy?
Ice Bear (07:18)
never gonna keep you that's Rick Astley like Michael Buble is the ⁓ no he has a Christmas album hold on what is his song why do people know him Michael Buble
Grizz (07:20)
Fuck, is he the guy?
Yeah, ⁓ Christmas album.
Is he the guy that
was like something more like, I don't love you no more. I'm never gonna stand for this. At my door, then at my lips.
Ice Bear (07:46)
That
doesn't sound right, but I'm not saying it's not that. When I think of him, I think of elevator music.
Grizz (07:52)
I know.
I
Ice Bear (07:57)
Ba-da-da, ba-da-da-da,
hmmm.
Grizz (08:01)
I genuinely don't who the fuck sings the song that I'm thinking. god damn
Ice Bear (08:04)
I don't know. This is taking a turn into our musical.
Grizz (08:07)
I don't want to be okay,
real quick. Lonely No More has to be the song has to be I don't be lonely no more. Is he lonely? No more? Who is this? Oh, fuck, was way off.
Ice Bear (08:20)
I'm lonely no more as Mike Tyson, right?
Grizz (08:23)
Rob Thomas, which is pretty much Mike Tyson.
Ice Bear (08:27)
⁓ Rob Thomas as in Matchbox 20 Rob Thomas
Grizz (08:33)
I guess I don't know. That was the same guy.
Ice Bear (08:36)
As in, as in that absolute banger with Santana, Rob Thomas?
Grizz (08:44)
Which one did he do with Tantana?
Ice Bear (08:48)
No, stop.
Grizz (08:49)
What's
the song is it cool as soon as you said that I was like, is he the guy that says played by Carlos Santana to do like that's I am like, what song is it you say it I'll probably know the song.
Ice Bear (08:52)
You
What? What?
You absolutely know it. No, I'm not giving it up right away. I want your powerful, gris, mental muscles to think of this song because you know it.
Grizz (09:07)
You're never gonna give it up.
Ice Bear (09:15)
This was like the number one song for the entirety of almost a year.
Grizz (09:23)
Hmm.
Ice Bear (09:26)
Boo.
Grizz (09:29)
bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. ⁓ damn, that's criminal that I didn't get that right then.
Ice Bear (09:31)
Not smooth criminal.
Oh my God, hold on. we gonna get, what do call it?
Grizz (09:41)
⁓
I'll have to listen to it on I'll listen to it not on there actually I was gonna play the back
Ice Bear (09:44)
Where they.
No, because
it can't if I do a terrible rendition of it can't
Grizz (09:54)
Okay. Oh yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. Okay. It's a good song. It's actually a really, really good song. I didn't know that was him either to be honest. Look, cause I know matchbox 20 from matchbox 20 and there's a song about like rain on a tin roof. And I was like, you know what? That sounds peaceful.
Ice Bear (09:56)
You're so smooth.
It's a great song.
Mm-hmm. That's our boy.
If I could be your superhero
Grizz (10:17)
Yeah, I just know that there's like that the white album cover with like a disheveled looking fat dude in a helmet like an old football helmet like a thing. Yeah. Yeah. The Amelia Earhart special. Yeah. Like, ⁓
Ice Bear (10:24)
Yeah, like the old airplane, like...
cruising the Atlantic in the 20s. Aviator hat? Yes. Amelia.
Yep, that's it.
Grizz (10:39)
Like,
⁓ yeah, cause I know my mom had that album and like, I listened to it all the time because she would always listen to it. Not a was a wee young kid, but, ⁓
Ice Bear (10:42)
Yeah, so...
Grizz (10:51)
Is it true that Amelia Herr got eaten by crabs?
Ice Bear (10:53)
⁓ what? Is that a thing?
Grizz (10:56)
Or is that like just a scary thing that I read somewhere random?
Ice Bear (11:00)
I
thought they did not know what happened to her corpse. I thought it was one of those great mysteries.
Grizz (11:04)
I yeah, because I thought because like,
where they like thought she landed was like, it was in this area with these crazy like crazy giant crabs.
Ice Bear (11:15)
I mean, it doesn't seem impossible. I just wasn't aware of it.
Grizz (11:21)
We should ask.
You should ask the AI if Amelia got eaten by crabs.
Ice Bear (11:28)
I don't know. I'm not supporting Brother AI. I decline.
Grizz (11:33)
All right, let's.
All right, where's Leo?
Ice Bear (11:36)
Leo's fine. Leo almost got the World Series right.
Grizz (11:37)
Leos.
He got he he's basically no Shraddhavas under the moon.
Ice Bear (11:46)
And it's just like the ocean under the moon.
It's the same as the emotion that I get from you. You got the kind of loving that can be so smooth. So give me a heart, Mary, or else forget about it. Where's Santana? Someone give me a guitar.
Grizz (12:09)
I don't even know how to spell this lady's name. All right. Let's, figure this out. Amelia. I got that one right. Oh, yeah. I just, I put air like the air to the throne and it's apparently it's EHR heart. I mean, that's what it got to me as maybe I just spelled it so wrong. The autocorrect got wrong too. We'll find this right now. Get Eden.
Ice Bear (12:12)
Amelia? A-M-E-L-I-A, I hope. Airheart, probably air, and then H-A-R-T.
It's EHR?
Grizz (12:38)
Bye, crabs.
Ice Bear (12:41)
I can't wait for this to be like, of course she's been eaten by crabs. We have it on video here.
Grizz (12:47)
Oh, so no, Amelia did not get eaten by crabs. This claim is part of a speculative theory about her disappearance, not a confirmed fact. One hypothesis supported by some forensic analysis of old photos and skeletal remains suggests she may have survived as a castaway on Nikumor or whatever the island and died there. The idea that her remains are scavenged by coconut crabs is a centralized interpretation of that theory, but there are no definitive evidence.
to confirm it.
Ice Bear (13:20)
This is why people come to this show. Misinformation about Amelia Earhart.
That's why I listen every week.
What are we gonna do next? What other things could we lie about?
Grizz (13:32)
I'm helium. I'm a-
and Frank.
Ice Bear (13:39)
And Frank fully abled not deaf and not blind not
Grizz (13:48)
Wait.
I just saw a video of a guy mix up and Frank and the blind one, the blind and deaf one. The tiger literally showed me a video of the tiger just showed me a video of somebody mixing up and Frank and Helen Keller. And you just did it too.
Ice Bear (14:01)
I can't believe I just mixed up with Ellen Keller.
You know what? You know what? Do that as you're short. Just bully me. Make fun of me for, for yes. And dude, I'm so mad every time you send me one of their videos. Now I am furious every time. I'm so mad. They both seem lovely. Yes, you did. Now here's my question.
Grizz (14:19)
They're gonna think we're copying these other two bros.
He seems like very nice guy though.
Did tell you what I The tiger song. And he got all like, he
got all like.
Ice Bear (14:44)
Is it a bit?
Grizz (14:46)
It has to be, it has to be.
Ice Bear (14:49)
So it's okay. If it's a bit, it's good acting. Cause he seems dumb as a brick.
Grizz (14:50)
I think it's a key.
I think, I think, I think it's a tinge of truth, right? I think it's, I think it's, ⁓ you are slightly ahead or whatever. And like, or you get something kind of wrong and you're like, fuck it. I'm just going to double down. Cause it's funny. You know what I mean? Like, and I think it's that I think it's where, cause you know, like, cause going into the bit is funny and it is fun to do at times.
Ice Bear (15:12)
just double down on it immensely.
Grizz (15:26)
Also, like, rage baiting's a thing.
Ice Bear (15:29)
Yes, it is. It really is. I can't believe Helen Keller had to hide from the Nazis after being blind and dead. That's so disheartening. Such a tragic life she led. Like, imagine being born and then you're fine and then one day you lose your sight because of asteroids and then you lose your hearing because of dinosaurs and then fucking Nazis out of nowhere and you can't even hear or see them coming.
Grizz (15:42)
Ha ha ha.
think the only thing crazier was, uh, one of my bosses who was like super cool as hell. And I love that guy, but he, when he made a joke, cause we're all looking at the solar eclipse and he was like doing without glasses. And he was just like, he was just like squinting and then looking kind of close. You know what I mean? Like enough street can get it, but not looking right into it. And he's like, and he was like, I don't believe this. Hell's not to just trying to hide something from us. I bet, I bet there's like the lottery numbers up there or something.
Ice Bear (16:12)
no.
That's a bold move.
Grizz (16:28)
hidden in plain sight.
Ice Bear (16:30)
That's the ice wall. The ice wall
was right there. Right there. Behind the eclipse and the chemtrails.
Grizz (16:43)
I can see how chemtrails got picked up speed though. Cause if you don't know anything, cause you just see the trails in the sky and you're like, Oh, why, why are they there? Why are they over metropolitan areas all the time? Why? And it's like, Oh, you know, like I can see that one.
Ice Bear (16:47)
That is one of the easier to buy into.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is probably the more maddening part about a lot of conspiracy theories. If you don't have the ability to think critically, I see how you fall for a lot of them.
Grizz (17:13)
Yeah. I mean, like, but the thing is it's that there are a lot of them that came true. And so because, because like, when you realize that something's lying to you once or twice, then you have like this hyper distrust of it, which is not necessarily illogical. But when you start with like, when you start, I guess, like with, with, the conclusion of like they're lying to you, then it's very easy to stretch.
Ice Bear (17:31)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (17:43)
anything into that framework of their line to you, which they're probably lying to you, also like humans are stupid.
Ice Bear (17:53)
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (17:54)
It doesn't matter
how high up they are.
Ice Bear (17:58)
That's very true. And that is where a lot of the conspiracy theories catch my interest. Because as we've discussed, I am very distrustful of the government at large. So anytime I can kind of mental gymnastics my way into being like, maybe the government wants to hide something, I'm like, yeah, they probably do.
Grizz (18:23)
It's just the same thing. think about like back when I in Vietnam, the Gulf of Tonkin, that incident was a conspiracy theory saying there was a false flag. They just did it to get us into the war. And I was like a whole thing for a long time. And then now, and they were like, conspiracy theorists, whatever stuff like, you know, anti-American, whatever good things. But now you just look into it you're like, it's common knowledge that it was a false flag. But during the decades around it, it was like, you're
Crazy, what is wrong with you?
Ice Bear (18:54)
Are there any that you, without a doubt, believe?
Grizz (19:00)
Ooh, that's a good question. Any weird one, like, like, ⁓
Ice Bear (19:04)
It doesn't have to be weird, just is there anything that's either counterculture or still a lot of people are like, nah, that can't be real. You're like, no, this is most assuredly a real thing.
Grizz (19:18)
⁓ that's good.
I think the most common one that I, that I, that was, I guess, counterculture, but it's probably, I don't know. I think it's kind of going more into the zeitgeist that it is true, but I think kind of because of memes, uh, I would still, I think I still have always thought 9-11 was sus.
Ice Bear (19:41)
I'm there with you in that same sort of energy. I am totally convinced you cannot talk me out of it. JFK.
Grizz (19:55)
Okay, the JFK as in multiple shooters or
Ice Bear (19:58)
Yeah.
Grizz (20:03)
Do you think Lee Harvey also looks like a patsy?
Wasn't he part of was it him that was part of the MKL true thing or like part of yeah he was he got all zonked out like fucking like my boy fucking Ted Kaczynski.
Ice Bear (20:12)
Yep.
Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
And to me, the main reason is now our channel gets purged. me, the main reason is there was so much for the CIA to gain from getting rid of him.
Grizz (20:39)
Yeah, my thing is, I don't know, like there's a lot of clubs that are great from like JFK, like the whole like shadow organizations and all these other kinds of things. But like, I don't know.
Hmm, because I guess when I because when I think of like things that he advocated for, like in the framework that he liked, or that he was kind of coming from, there were other presidents that did that and more. So Michael, I don't know if that's the reason why. But then again, if you just think of like, intelligence agencies, just acting on their own at the behest of the government, it's it would make a lot of sense.
Ice Bear (21:07)
Mm-hmm.
I'm just thinking Cuban missile crisis,
not willing to play ball and create a war there.
Grizz (21:26)
Yeah, I think it's true. think I'm not one where I don't necessarily know as far as like
It's one where I'm, I've never put too much thought into it, but you're getting somewhere static.
Ice Bear (21:46)
Very weird static. The CIA got us already. Wow.
Grizz (21:48)
Shit.
Dale.
Ice Bear (21:55)
How did they get in that fast? Impressive. All right, we won't talk about you anymore. Hold on, let's test this. The American government is perfect and honest 100 % of the time. Did it go away for you?
Grizz (22:11)
just as I like a robot.
Ice Bear (22:12)
I was going to say for me it was clearing up. How about you pay the government a compliment?
Ha.
It's so staticky.
now you're just cut. Now it just muted you.
You're totally gone now. If you can hear me, you're totally your ghost. They clipped you.
Grizz (23:13)
am I back? Sure, we're back.
Ice Bear (23:14)
You're back now.
Although it's very weird. can't believe they just absolutely sniped you.
Grizz (23:22)
Just like me.
Ice Bear (23:24)
Damn. Heads up. What was Wilson's thing? League of Nations? Is that Wilson?
Grizz (23:26)
All the homies hate Woodrow Wilson. He's the worst thing in the world.
He is, he's a fucking literal demon. Okay. One.
Okay. One Woodrow Wilson was like, okay. And the behest of my more love flinging frontier. think the absolute scourge on this world is progressive. And Woodrow Wilson is, was that he was a progressive and he was super big into eugenics. He caused World War I and thus World War II.
because he was the whole thing of like spreading democracy across the monarchs and all that other shit. they, because of him, he was largely into the thing of that led to the fall over there that caused world war one, which caused Germany to be fucking destroyed, right. Which ultimately led to the thing for Hitler to come up because like they just watched their whole economy and everything else get destroyed. ⁓
Ice Bear (24:15)
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (24:27)
He led all that. created the federal reserve. He got us off the gold standard. He like, he is literally the worst of everything. It was all in the name of progressivism. So he's a, he's the absolutely worst president that ever happened in this whole world.
Ice Bear (24:35)
Mm.
Man, do we want to get into the gold standard? I feel like we could both rant about that for a while.
Grizz (24:48)
Yeah,
the goldbacks Florida's goldbacks are like full and full effect and I Texas is getting into it.
Ice Bear (24:57)
Good for both. Good for both. It's just...
Grizz (24:57)
They look dope as shit too. They look cool.
Ice Bear (25:05)
What a mistake. What a mistake. This is how you wind up with billion dollar bills.
Grizz (25:13)
Sure. mean, it's like a mine of Germany. Yeah. Top top top. OK, well, I'll cut this out real quick. Real quick. Top worst presence ever. Well, Joe Wilson. Well, Joe Wilson, well, Joe Wilson, well, Joe Wilson.
Ice Bear (25:28)
Why are we cutting this out? you think Winsher Wilson's watching? It's fine, leave it in.
Grizz (25:32)
The
ghost of him will kill us.
Also, it's not even like getting into like the more.
social I'll say being kind of immersed with social conscious people
ultra awesome as long as a piece of shit in that standard to like he was not a good guy.
Ice Bear (25:57)
I think this should be every single clip from this week's episode should be shitting on Woodrow Wilson out of nowhere. People are like, when did this become a political podcast? he's like, here's why Woodrow Wilson is evil and you should hate him.
Grizz (26:06)
He is the shit.
talking about decade.
And this is this is the thing is the frickin why I have a bone to pick with a seven plus decade of dead person.
Ice Bear (26:29)
And then next week I just go on a love fest with Garfield. Like, look guys, here's why you should love my boy Garfy.
Grizz (26:41)
Hahaha
Ice Bear (26:44)
just totally changed the tone of this thing. We stopped drinking. It's just sober next week.
Grizz (26:52)
Because yeah, what is a sophisticated drink?
Ice Bear (26:54)
Garfield deserves our
full attention. How was number one, by the way?
Grizz (26:59)
Number
one just is reminds me cause I didn't, I just got it. Cause I saw the can art and it like, cool. ⁓ I don't like West coast IPAs. I think this, yeah, I think this is a B. This is not a bad beer. I could tolerate just holding it. fine. That's good. I'm giving this, I'm giving it a B. I can't, don't think I can give it a B plus. Like I would never buy it again, but if it's on tap, I would happily get it. It's not a bad beers. It's a solid beer. That's good.
Ice Bear (27:10)
You really don't stop buying them. You've never liked one.
Well that's something. That's something.
Grizz (27:29)
I just wish I had, you know what? I bet this would be great with like a touch of like, you know, the beer salt, like the lemon lime Tang. I think this would be fucking amazing with it. I bet that one will be fine. I think that would be the B plus if it had just a little bit of the beer salt with that. think I fucking love it.
Ice Bear (27:36)
Mmm.
There you go.
It's also been a minute since we've brought in the Tahin for one of the shitty ones. I still have some on hand, so if I have a bad one in again, I need to be reminded for that. ⁓
Grizz (27:54)
That's true. That's true.
Yeah, I gotta move mine back
to my desk.
Ice Bear (28:04)
Darkberry Sour here. If this were a stronger bruski, this would be an A territory. But because it's just a little babby, ubu, gubu, gibby gabby, 5%, we're gonna give it a B. It is tasty. It is tasty. It's very, this is one of those things that I believe old Grizz would call an easy drinker, a porch pounder, if you will.
Grizz (28:12)
Ooh.
Good. It looks and it sounds delicious.
Yep.
Ice Bear (28:34)
could crush six of them, no problem.
⁓ Speaking of beautiful ones, my next one I am very excited for because I was watching the YouTube program Hot Ones and the guest on there was Texan Matthew McConaughey.
Grizz (28:56)
Ooh.
Ice Bear (29:05)
And when I think of McConaughey, I always think of True Detective. In my opinion, season one is the best season of television that exists. I don't think there's anything better than season one True Detective. I think it's the perfect show.
Grizz (29:16)
Mmm.
is that is that just normal television or like the fancy by channel television like when like HBO and Showmax or Showtime or thing? ⁓
Ice Bear (29:30)
I'm counting everything. I'm counting premium channels too.
I don't think there's a better season of TV.
Grizz (29:35)
Interesting. What about that one with the Japanese one?
Ice Bear (29:39)
Shogun?
Grizz (29:41)
Is it Shogun? There was one with a Japanese or it was like a old Diego. Yeah.
Ice Bear (29:43)
Tokyo Vice.
that's really good. But no, True Detective's better. Him and Harrelson are such a good duo. The other thing is, you're... It's just right up my alley, because he's kind of a... I don't know. don't know. People... It's been out for a while. I can spoil the whole thing. He's...
Grizz (29:50)
Okay, interesting, okay.
I can see that. Yeah. Woody Harrelson. Yeah.
Ice Bear (30:12)
one of those people that's been broken. It's kind of the Spike Spiegel thing. It's a like, I'm already dead. I'm just still fucking here. And so his character is going through that. He's been through some insane stuff and his job is very interesting. He's a homicide detective and they're tracking this horrific serial killer. It's kind of part of a cult. It's a very engaging story and just his character, Harrelson's character, the
weird nuances of their partnership over, the story takes place over like a decade. So there's like a lot of flash forwards and flashbacks and that kind of thing. And it's just fantastic. And so anyway, the reason all this has come up is because he is just pounding Lone Stars the entire time in this show. And so I saw this and I thought, this is, this is the Maple version of Lone Star. All right, all right, all right. This is North Star.
Grizz (30:48)
⁓ okay, damn.
Ice Bear (31:12)
Canadian lagers.
Grizz (31:12)
Hahaha
You are dead
Ice Bear (31:21)
This is a Pilsner style made in Toronto 5.2 percent it seems I I'm hoping for honestly, I just want it to be a Lone Star I'll be happy if it's just a Lone Star
Grizz (31:34)
I mean,
Lone Stars is a Texas Peps Blue from PBR.
or you get that nice thing, you're gonna take it down to the old great ticks with look, it's pretty cool on a lot of stuff. But this idea of having a Hollywood 2.0 in Texas, I don't know about that, But.
But we're already getting too much, too much people on there. We got, got, got, got slower down. ⁓ and my boy Ruben believes the same thing. Probably not to be honest. No, I think this from Ruben's bruise, this right here, you taking a down south, I'm taking it up high. I'm going with a dry hopped with cosmic quantities of Citra.
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Ice Bear (32:37)
⁓
Okay, quick timeout. What the fuck is an orchard fruit? Is that just an apple? I've never heard orchard fruit.
Grizz (33:08)
Yeah, I don't know. I was thinking the same thing. Yeah,
I was thinking the same thing and my but I get to be perfectly on my dumb ass. I went one step further and I was like orchard. What the fuck is that? Do orchids make fruit?
Ice Bear (33:24)
I feel
comfortable assuming it's not an orchid. But I like that your powerful bare brain went there. I like that a lot.
Grizz (33:30)
It's not an orchid.
This smells.
I like Dr. Hoby when I do this.
Ice Bear (33:48)
So, while you're giving that a sniff, full disclosure, old ice bear came into this episode a little buzzed, because the seal and I went out for a ⁓ steak dinner. The Canadian equivalent of like a Texas Roadhouse, so nothing fancy, but you know, a good meal. And they had, it's called Chuck's Roadhouse.
Grizz (34:12)
What's it called?
Ice Bear (34:17)
an old Chuck's Road house has a deal where when the maple leaves are on my my mortal my mortal Canadian ice fight enemies when they're playing they do $4 18 ounces so I had a couple of those and it was it was quite nice indeed
Grizz (34:39)
$4 anything's great.
Ice Bear (34:41)
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I also looked at their menu on Thursdays. They do 54 ounces for 12 bucks. So I was like, that seems like an old bear special right there.
Grizz (35:03)
I got a blooming onion
Ice Bear (35:06)
No, they didn't. But I will say this. They had, I think, probably for the price, the best restaurant steak I've had. It's not the best steak, but for the price. Because I had a
12 ounce for $22 Canadian, so we're like 17 bucks. And it was just, it was fantastic.
Grizz (35:41)
I've been.
Ice Bear (35:41)
The seal had surf and turf for 24 bucks and the lobster was good.
Grizz (35:47)
Mmm. Okay.
Ice Bear (35:48)
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Grizz (35:51)
Sometimes you can be, I don't know, like, sometimes you be a good little steak, even if it's, I have a hard time with especially like butchery background. When I was like, I'm getting by something way better than for this price and just cooking myself. But at the same time though, like sometimes there is benefits of just the experience of going out and having something that you like, you know, something you didn't have to cook. It has.
Ice Bear (36:04)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Ooh.
Have you been to the keg yet? Because you have them there now.
Grizz (36:22)
I haven't heard, what is it? Never heard of it.
Ice Bear (36:24)
The keg, it's a chain.
So it's primarily Canadian, but Washington State, like when I was there, they for sure had them. So I would think they still do. So the thing that if they're still there and you can find it, they do a baseball tip sirloin and they will cook it blue and do it well. If you don't like that, they'll do rare, they'll do medium rare, it's whatever. But that is my favorite steak from like a chain place.
It's a little expensive, but I would gladly pay it. 10 times out of 10.
Grizz (36:59)
Interesting. I have to look into it. I haven't like ⁓ gone through much places. I recently went to this sports bar place called Tom's and it was pretty insane because of all the giant screens they had of all the different games they playing. Yeah.
Ice Bear (37:01)
Yeah.
Was that when you sent me the videos?
Grizz (37:20)
I was pre-gaming because I went to go see you all days of hell.
Ice Bear (37:24)
dude, how was that? How did we not talk about that yet?
Grizz (37:26)
Oh
yeah. So it was kind of a buddy of mine here. He was like, all right, about three tickets. And I was like, oh shit. So, you know, me and a couple of friends went never in my life that I think I was going to see Dave's ability at any time soon, especially after like he like went on hiatus and kind of came back here and there never thought I was going to get an opportunity. So I was very, very, very excited about it. Um,
Ice Bear (37:44)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Grizz (37:55)
Wint came out and he kinda...
Honestly, like it was one of those where it was a funny as hell start to finish and a lot of it I don't remember because I was laughing so hard.
Ice Bear (38:10)
That- ⁓ god, that's so good when that happens.
Grizz (38:13)
Like it was a thing where I'm looking to the side and I was talking about it with a friend that I work with because we, because he was one on the with us and like, he was like, I felt like I was, was like, felt like it was just a jackass. was just fucking like, maybe it was because I have so much people around. like the place was packed. Right. And like, and so it just kind of elevated that because like I was just fucking like, just laughing me a tight. Yeah.
Ice Bear (38:32)
Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah.
So was this new material?
Grizz (38:42)
existed. I never heard from him. As I say, he brought up like when he went to Saudi Arabia, he brought up like, yeah. Yeah, so you he brought he brought up that he brought up
Ice Bear (38:44)
⁓ very good.
okay.
Grizz (38:56)
What else did he bring up? brought up that he brought up kind of His he brought us some stuff in Seattle he brought up What he loves now, yeah, it's hard to even think yeah, it's hard to even think about like
Ice Bear (39:07)
damn you got you got hypnotized he seduced
you with his his chuckles
Grizz (39:15)
Yeah. Oh man. It was so fucking funny. It was very surreal too. Cause also like, cause I grew up with, with Chappelle, right? Like, you know, I remember being in, I don't know, fucking middle school probably. Yeah. So I was like, yeah. I remember being in middle school and like how much jokes, I still reference some jokes from like the Chappelle show. Like when I get eat and I eat a lot.
Ice Bear (39:23)
Sure. Yeah.
Yeah, because I was I was a freshman. So yeah, you would have been like sixth, seventh grade.
Grizz (39:44)
And I'm tired. I'll say I have the itis, right? Like, cause of the whole, like the whole like ribs infomercial, right? Like, there's so much things that I just will, ⁓ call back. to kind of see him there. And then also to like the people introduced him was like the guys introduced him on a show, introduced him like on stage, like the Dave Chappelle, right? Like same.
Ice Bear (39:51)
Yeah. ⁓
⁓ man.
Mm-hmm.
⁓ that's
awesome.
Grizz (40:11)
And he
had this whole like see logo on the stage. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's, it was very surreal.
Ice Bear (40:15)
That's fantastic.
Dude, that's awesome. I'm very jealous. ⁓ Because we talked about this. had an episode, I don't know, a couple of months ago where we talked about like Mount Rushmore of comics. And that is for sure. I'm so happy for you. That's fantastic. And I'm glad it was a good show, because that would be so disappointing to see like an idol and you're just like, ⁓ shit, this is garbage.
Grizz (40:40)
You're one of your people all time.
Yeah, it was one like.
Ice Bear (40:46)
I feel like he's getting better as he gets older. I feel like he understands his material to the point where, for me, one of the things when I watch him is like his pacing is so on point.
Grizz (40:49)
Yeah, I can see that.
Yeah.
Because he just like ropes you along and you don't even realize it. And that's kind of like the amazing thing. ⁓
Ice Bear (41:09)
All
of the really, really good standups, they are storytellers first. And they pepper in things that are funny. And you're just in you're so engaged in whatever the story is, like whatever the overarching narrative is that you're invested and you're paying so close of attention to anything, even just like a little like something like a deviation from what you expect. You're like, fuck, that's so.
Grizz (41:17)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. And the thing is that they've
paced it so well is that as soon as like the chuckles stopped from the last laugh, he hits you with another one and it just starts it right over again. You know, like it's just so good. And cause it was one where like it was like an hour and half set at least I think. And, and the thing is like, it felt like we were there for 20 minutes at most.
Ice Bear (41:45)
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
That's awesome. So it was a long one too. Good.
Were were there any ⁓ like lead-ins any like opening act?
Grizz (42:05)
⁓ Adam Ray, who's a Seattle comic. ⁓ when I went to go see, Matt rife in orange County with the tiger, he also opened up for him too. And I was like, sure. It's this guy again. And it was Adam Ray and it was somebody else who was actually a friend of Chappelle's. I can't believe I can't remember. Yeah. I just remember Chappelle's, but he was funny too, but like, yeah, but Chappelle's thing was just phenomenal.
Ice Bear (42:08)
⁓
Uh-huh.
Chalabrhy.
Grizz (42:34)
Again, it's hard to pinpoint the jokes and I think that's what makes it amazing. I was like, you know, it's good because I can like Be like again, like I saw Matt right not too long ago and I'm not like hugest fan of him But like I do like some of the like shorts I see like on Instagram or YouTube whatever right that I see with the tiger and he's funny And he was actually very funny too. It was it was good And then something with Kevin Hart like Kevin Hart's last message that he came out when I saw him a year ago
Ice Bear (42:51)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (43:03)
That was kind of like the material he was workshopping there, I guess. And it was actually funny.
Ice Bear (43:09)
It's the Kevin Hart one where you had like a $25 beer.
Grizz (43:13)
Yeah, I was so pissed off about that.
Yeah, no, it was, it was a fucking tall boys. the 19 ounces, I didn't want, they don't show you any of the fucking prices there. And so I bought two for me in the time. One for me and the tiger. was fucking $40. It was like $40 something.
Ice Bear (43:18)
⁓ you sucker.
Ugh, that's brutal.
Grizz (43:33)
like this is okay I can buy two six to 12 packs for that
Ice Bear (43:40)
absolutely brutal. What a markup. What a markup.
Grizz (43:41)
It was rough. I was
I was fucking devastated by it. I think Kevin, the Kevin Hart's and Kevin Hart's also won this great live because admittedly I've never really been a big Kevin Hart fan. I just certain jokes that I like here and there that I've seen and I've seen the standups and like every time I see because I was because the tiger was they like some because I guess like for the tiger Kevin Hart's station of hell because like because for her she seems she was young, know, all the things like compounded with movies and things of that like
Ice Bear (44:02)
Mm-hmm.
Interesting. Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (44:18)
You know what mean? Like she's been part of her childhood. So like for
Ice Bear (44:19)
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (44:22)
her it was a big deal.
One thing on Kevin Hart, which makes me think he is great is the fact that me going in there like, sorry, he's cool. guess. And me having a damn good time and laughing through it all. You know what I mean? It'd be like, damn, he's actually is really good. Like you, you know what I mean? Like he, um, was neutral at best for him. And I'm like, you know, I like him. He's funny in some movies more. I like him in movies more than his stand-up. I was always kind of amped out. But when I saw his stand-up live in that thing, I get was fucking hilarious.
Ice Bear (44:36)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Nice. Very nice.
yeah, good stuff. Very good stuff indeed.
Grizz (45:04)
But yeah, but Dave
Chappelle didn't disappoint. Literally a bucket list thing for me. So I was very, very, very, happy about it.
Ice Bear (45:15)
Was there any part of it that is one of those things that you see yourself repeating in your head? Like, I'll give you an example. Was there anything from this set that was similar to like...
Give me some of that grape drink. Because that pops in my head at least once a week out of nowhere. I'm just like, give me some of that grape drink.
Grizz (45:33)
You
you
Ice Bear (45:44)
or clackity clack grab a no
Grizz (45:44)
Goddamn.
I know I think they're always positive. I have a shevallas like go home, baby
Ice Bear (45:58)
that the best part about that was so that special was DC right and and so I you know that's where I grew up and and ⁓ man it captured that area so it's just it's just he nailed DC he nailed it
Grizz (46:03)
Yeah, I was gonna do C-word.
I remember finding out like, like how bad DC was in some areas like blew my mind when I was younger.
Ice Bear (46:28)
Yeah, no, Southeast is not good. Not good. Not good. No bueno.
Grizz (46:37)
⁓ man. He, he lived up to every expectation that I had of him. And that's, made it like most amazing. But I will say like, cause I, I, I, admittedly I was a little worried because I'm like, cause the last stand up, I was like, I thought it was funny, but I wasn't like huge on it. Like the other ones, like he, he seemed a little more safe.
Ice Bear (46:47)
That's...
Mm-hmm.
Mmm.
Grizz (47:03)
Then
like he normally is I'm like, okay, like it still was great and social appell. But I don't know, there was something tame about it. that makes sense. You know what I mean? Like I, couldn't really place it, place it too much, but the vibe was just a little more tame. And so was like, okay. And so I got a little worried cause I kind of felt like, uh, the same thing with like, uh, like guys like bill burr, like as like their. Specials have gone on and on, like you like lost kind of that little edge, which makes sense. You're probably.
Ice Bear (47:09)
Mmm.
you
Grizz (47:31)
Not as angry. It's like, it's like a band, right? Like when you're got nothing in your this and that and you're angsty and you're angry, but as you like, you get more successful and you're, it's kind of hard to be angry about shit, you know?
Ice Bear (47:33)
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just I just paid off my second house.
Grizz (47:46)
Yeah, it's,
very hard to like, kind of have that same kind of like thing. So it's understandable. And so when I saw that, I'm like, okay, I mean, the older man, like he's an older guy. friggin has a good wife. Like he has his wife. He has, you know what I mean? He has everything like literally like one of the greatests and whether he likes or not, like he knows it. He wants to admit it or not. Right. So it's kind of one of those things. So I was a little, I was slightly worried that it was going to
Ice Bear (47:50)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (48:14)
kind of be one of those like emperor has no clothes kind of thing. And I'm so happy that those, that those worries were on, they were like, there was, there was nothing to be worried about.
Ice Bear (48:17)
Mmm.
That's awesome. That's fantastic. I'm very, very glad to hear that.
Yeah. Man. Okay. Have you been to a concert where it fell significantly short of expectations?
Grizz (48:50)
Yes, I full times.
Ice Bear (48:53)
all right, me any of them.
Grizz (49:02)
Okay, so here's all right. So here's here's one of the worst ones so I ⁓ So back on mayhem mayhem fest was a thing for a little bit The first actual really big mayhem fest slip not headlined it right? Phenomenal great band. I was very angsty. I remember like fifth grade is when I kind of got into him But a band I kind of got into around that time too there was I remember first hearing it cuz I listened to like 80s
Ice Bear (49:16)
Okay.
Grizz (49:30)
stuff, 80s metal stuff and here iron maiden and like all these guys and it's you know, it's awesome. It's great. It's fairly tame compared to like more modern things at the time. One of the ones that stuck out to me like that I remember hearing it when I was younger, I'm like, this is heavy as hell. This is awesome. It disturbed. I was just like, which, whatever the hell his name is now, it's like Derek or Desmond or
Ice Bear (49:48)
Hmm.
Grizz (49:57)
some shit like it's something with some, something, whatever his name is. It's one of those where like, he was like a tiny tough guy, old guy. So he kind of comes off as a wiener now, but like still though, I remember, know, like when I was younger, like down with the sickness and like stricken in it. no, no, no, no, no, no, ⁓
Ice Bear (49:58)
Whatever it is,
You
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (50:23)
ever being young and like, this is cool. I got it. You know, it'd it's awesome. It sounds good. And like, it's awesome. So they were one of like the main acts on that tour. And I remember them playing and it was like, it was fucking rough. It's bad when there's no energy. Like there's no energy from any of the band, like terrible front man, doesn't command, it doesn't command the crowd at all. The guitarists are like,
Ice Bear (50:26)
Yeah. Yeah.
own.
That's rough.
Mm.
Grizz (50:54)
just basically standing there, basically just standing there and like there feels like there's no soul in the music at all because there's no energy because you know what I mean? Like, cause like they're not even feeling the energy. So it's not translating to the crowd, you know? And yeah. And and so when you're in this giant fucking stadium thing, like open stadium with thousands and thousands of people and like you're mic'd up to these fucking hundreds of amps.
Ice Bear (50:56)
Ugh.
That's so sad.
They just don't want to be there. They're just like, why are we here?
Grizz (51:23)
You know what I mean? And like these thousands of f****g watts of power and you still can't like even just sound energetic. It was crazy to me. It was like the album, technically speaking, they didn't like mess up on the songs or anything like that, but it's just like the album sounds better. And I'm the sense of like, cause it's more produced. It's just like, there's energy in the album. Even songs that I was looking forward to that I liked.
Ice Bear (51:30)
⁓
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mmm, that's...
Grizz (51:52)
I haven't listened to like 10 years, but it's like nostalgia bait was I was like, fuck, this is fucking like it just, it just disappointed me. I remember cause we were like, cause you're in the rows and the thing. And so like, just like the fold out seats, like a, like a sports stadium, but everybody's standing up. I remember like after a while I just like sat back down. I'm like, I'm going to learn. That was the absolute worst one. Now that I think nothing beats that one. The most disappointing.
Ice Bear (51:59)
⁓
Hmm.
That's brutal.
All right, now flip side of that. Is there anything that either surprised you or fully lived up to expectations?
Grizz (52:32)
These men are
Let's see.
me are fully looked up.
Ice Bear (52:43)
I can give you one while you're mulling it over. ⁓
Grizz (52:45)
Give me one while I think because I have I haven't like there's
two the pop in my head, but they don't really like a line perfectly, but gimme.
Ice Bear (52:53)
So I was blessed with the opportunity to see the Roots Constitution Hall in DC. And you know who opened for him? Chuck fucking Berry. so I didn't know Chuck Berry. This was like the first big headline kind of concert I had ever been to. was still in high school. I went with my journalism professor who was like in hindsight, what a cool guy.
Grizz (53:01)
shit.
What the fuck?
Ice Bear (53:22)
what a cool guy like just take your editor on a like a fucking cool concert knowing like I love the roots to. And so we get there. Chuck Berry, who at the time I had never heard of starts opening, he pops out DC go go Chuck, baby, don't give a fuck, Chuck, baby, don't give a fuck. what what? And I'm like, shit, by the way, me and my professor were the only white people there, which is also an added layer of just multi band. And so we're just
Grizz (53:47)
Ha
Ice Bear (53:51)
We're just vibing. having a great time. Chuck Berry plays like four or five tracks. The roots come out. Questlove does like a 10 minute drum solo to open it. And I'm just like, what is happening? This is so cool. They start with like the seed 2.0. And it's just like, ⁓ man, it was such a good show. Just every, every song I wanted them to play. They did. They did.
Dylan covers they did shit I just never would have expected them to do and and we get out and we're like on the street walking back to the to the metro and people like ⁓ yeah white boys enjoyed that huh I was like yes that was the coolest show ever this is great this is an awesome time so that was that was one of my my better concert experiences that was really
Grizz (54:35)
Hahaha!
Ice Bear (54:48)
I expected to enjoy it, but I did not know what I was getting into.
Grizz (54:59)
I think one that exceeded my expectations is kind of like a skirrish band because they're like, I'm pretty sure I've showed you some of this stuff before because it's like a big band. It's super jazzy. It's super everything like ⁓ they call it Reign of Kendo.
Ice Bear (55:18)
Mm, yeah.
Grizz (55:19)
They are a phenomenal fucking group of mageys and group of musicians. I had saw them. ⁓ Fuck, 10 years ago at this point now, and I had just got into them slightly because of vocals I had at time was really into them. And ⁓ so we went, we watched it. was they played with like some prog band and I watched them and I had like a very, very small
⁓ Idea of their catalog where I knew a couple of songs fairly well that I was like, wow, this shit's fucking catchy shit. It's amazing Because they had at the point in time they had these series of like one take live videos if they Perform the songs on YouTube and that my singer showed me I was like, shit. These guys are fucking amazing ⁓ So I saw them And I was absolutely blown away I was like I just just the musicianship was like fucking
like, cause you're also, you're also like this kind of like jazzy kind of like moody setting. You know what I mean? Like, so the vibe is just different, right? Cause I mean, it's like metal shows are like rap shows at the most, right? And that was, was just like, or hardcore shows. And so I was like, the vibe was just there. It was just different. Like this is a groove is just fucking like, I don't know. It's mesmerizing almost, right? It's, it's awesome. They were one, but I think one of the biggest bands for me, there's a post hardcore band called La Dispute.
Ice Bear (56:24)
Mm. Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
Grizz (56:47)
And they're very super emotional band. it's like five centimeters per second that super sad, fucking anime kind of stuff, right? Super, right. They are the emotional equivalent to that. They're just like, they just write songs about tragedy and like, whether it's their own person, his own personal life or whatever around like they, they, ⁓
Ice Bear (57:00)
Okay.
you
Wait, is this the band that wrote the one about the cat that passed away that you sent me?
Grizz (57:17)
I don't know. That's just a different man. that because because I won't assume that yeah, that one that was a singer's cat. Yeah, I fucking that's like. Yeah, that's like got me because I think of my cat, right. It's like when I got me and I was just like that one fucking got the fuck out of me. I was like, God, was I was not ready. It's also it's counterparts or the. Yeah, so counterparts there. That song fucking it's rough.
Ice Bear (57:19)
Okay.
Yeah, when you sent me that when I was like, I was benching and I was like,
Grizz (57:46)
Just the whole like, uh, yeah, that's like the whole, can't, like, I can't breathe sleeping on my chest kind of thing. It's like, God damn. Shit talking hit hard. Um, but a lot of dispute, have a lot of basically songs like that, right. To where it's, whether it's like forlorn love, whether it's heartbreak, whether it's like abandonment, like they have a lot of just things like that. They kind of just hit real close to home. Right. And, uh,
Ice Bear (57:56)
Yeah, that was real bad.
Grizz (58:17)
One, one of their tours, they toured with another post-harcoband I really like called called Pianos Become the Teeth. And I went to all the Texas states, like me and friends are like, fuck it, let's road trip. We're going to go watch all the shows. Right. So we went to all the shows and ⁓ we went to a show, we went to the show for the tour to stop in Houston and
That shit was like in the, it was my first time seeing them. This is the, and so it kind of, it sucked because in the sense of like, it started at such a huge high. And so like in this venue in Houston, everything it's, it's a big room, but it was packed. was fucking packed from stage to thing. Like you have inches in front of the next person in front of you. it's packed as hell. Good sound too. So you feel the music you hear, right? Everything. And it's small enough where you see the band very clearly. Right. So you see the.
The thing with like Jordan is a vocalist on there. Like it's all his stuff. And so he's pretty much more of a poet that just happens to be in the band kind of thing. So it was very personal to him. Right. And so you see that from him completely. And the music is, it is very emotional. Like there's people that have like these really high like ties to it. And it's the closest, like what,
Ice Bear (59:25)
Mmm.
Grizz (59:44)
It sounds kind of silly, but it was the closest I've had to like a religious experience where I'm seeing these people. I'm like, I understand how people get these fucking things. I got to catch the Holy ghost and all this shit because I guess parts in this stuff, when they singing the song and like the room feels fucking heavy. Like the emotion of the room feels heavy. You feel it bearing down on your chest. You feel it, everything. And you as all looking around and there's people screaming these lyrics balling.
Ice Bear (59:49)
Mm.
Yeah, yeah.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mmm.
Grizz (1:00:12)
You know what mean? And it's not just one person. It's fucking everywhere I'm looking, I'm seeing people fucking like it's cathartic and that changed my perspective of what music can be. Right. And so that's what made me like even like, I'm like more extreme metal. So I was like, want to make this shit more emotional because like I've never experienced this at an extreme show. Like this, just, it just didn't compare anymore because like seeing what I guess like
Ice Bear (1:00:17)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:00:43)
more aggressive music or like more harsher music can do. And I was like, it completely changed my view on like what a live show can be. And I think that was like the biggest one.
Ice Bear (1:00:53)
Interesting.
That's awesome. Yeah, it's really interesting what certain songs or performances can.
create emotionally in you. Because there's a few songs that no matter how many times I hear them, I'll get a little misty. A little bit misty. Like I think I've told you about it, but there's like a 21 pilot song about the dude's dad dying after taking care of his mom. I've heard it fucking 500 times. Every time I'm like.
And if I'm like in my car by myself, I'm trying to sing along and like I like choke up like almost every time. And I'm like, man, that's that's fucking wild that there's just some sort of shared human sync thing where you're just like, ⁓ you don't know what to do with all of it.
Grizz (1:01:54)
Yeah. Like more on the ostrich. I think I showed you the song too, but there's a band called Casey. They did that. Remember I showed you the whole one of like the, where it was like, basically like the, my, like the, rip guy guy tried to give you a, I opened my heart, but my like rib cage was it, but it was just a cage or whatever. And like, ⁓ actually here it's.
Okay, see.
There's a, let's see.
Ice Bear (1:02:32)
⁓ get ready Spain, we're about to knock your socks off.
We're about to tenderize your hearts.
Grizz (1:02:44)
Yeah, there's a little bird. It was a Ben Casey. They have a song called Little Bird. And I showed you the song because it was just like fucking hell, bro. Have you ever had a thing of like where you were chasing like a lover, like a thing that wasn't serving the other person and it was just you. Right. And it's like one of the things and he was like that he's like, I thought my heart could be your home. But but but all you thought of was the cage praying for the sun.
beneath my ribs, you sat in shade. You were my little bird and I saw fit to clip your wings. And then you resented and then resented you because for me you never chose to sing. So there was silence in the house. The hallways echoed with a growing doubt that we would never make it out of the hell that we created. I guess that's why it never felt like home because we laid together, but we're still alone despite the warmth of someone's comfort, but not our own.
We were always vacant. Nevermore. We spoke into our throats were sore. Our hearts lay on the bedroom floor, but one was mine and both were yours. Right. Like, it's like fucking shit, bro. Like, what the fuck is that? That's just rough. That's rough, rough.
Ice Bear (1:03:59)
Yeah...
Yeah...
Grizz (1:04:02)
So you guys should like that and you're like, damn, bro, how do you capture that so eloquently?
Music's fucking amazing.
Ice Bear (1:04:17)
It really is. It really, really is. ⁓
It's also interesting to me that I feel like not everyone, the vast majority of people, poetry is kind of lost now. And so you've lost a medium where unless you put a melody to it, it's no longer relatable.
Grizz (1:04:33)
That's fair.
Yeah. Cause I think, cause even, even at that, like the circles were poetry still big. It's kind of cringe.
Ice Bear (1:04:54)
That's true. That's very fair.
Grizz (1:04:55)
Cause like the, like
the slam poetry stuff, like even stuff that's good when you get like the people that speak like fucking, that, like the fuck's like, they speak like Christopher Walken. Like, you know what I mean? Like, what the The the butt. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't like, I'm not kidding.
Ice Bear (1:05:19)
There is something very weirdly... it feels performative in a fake way about the cadence. Yeah, there is something weird about it. You're absolutely right.
Grizz (1:05:29)
Yeah. Yeah.
Like it feels like they're doing a shitty Christopher Walken impression, like a sad Christopher Walken or an angry Christopher Walken.
Ice Bear (1:05:36)
You
I just want more cowbell.
Grizz (1:05:47)
Yeah.
It's just that this is the thing that I like. But yeah, do love poetry. I always loved poetry. So that's what the sad thing.
Ice Bear (1:05:56)
⁓
You know what's poetry?
I'm going full A- for Northstar. For a Pilsner, it was damn good.
Grizz (1:06:06)
my wha-
Holy shit.
Damn good.
Ice Bear (1:06:16)
is damn good. I think I was also just kind of craving one. I don't know why. I think it was because of the McConaughey thing I watched. was just craving a just wanted a Lone Star and this this hit the spot.
Grizz (1:06:24)
Just clean and eat. When you
walk away, it was simple and clean.
Ice Bear (1:06:32)
you
It was simple and clean.
Grizz (1:06:36)
beautiful.
One of the greatest opening songs for any game ever.
Ice Bear (1:06:48)
Echo the Dolphin?
Grizz (1:06:50)
Simple and clean.
Ice Bear (1:06:53)
What is that the opening for?
Grizz (1:06:55)
my god.
Ice Bear (1:06:58)
What is? I don't, I I might know it. I don't know it.
Grizz (1:07:01)
Come on. Simple
and clean. When you walk away.
Ice Bear (1:07:08)
Pokemon Snap. What is this? What is this from? I don't know it. What is it? What's it from?
Grizz (1:07:10)
my Lord. Really?
⁓ my God.
Ice Bear (1:07:16)
Give me more.
I got when you walk away. That's all I got.
Grizz (1:07:20)
That's all you need, really?
Ice Bear (1:07:22)
I don't know it.
Grizz (1:07:23)
When you walk away, you don't hear me say please. When you walk away, you don't.
Ice Bear (1:07:27)
I still don't know it.
I still don't know.
Grizz (1:07:34)
Really?
Ice Bear (1:07:35)
I'm many beers deep. might be too drunk to know it, but I also might just not know it. What is from?
You don't know it. You've also forgotten. You're putting on the show. You're making old ice bear feel feel feel so foolish for no reason. When when in fact you don't know it, I challenge you. Tell me what it is.
Grizz (1:07:51)
This is blowing my mind right now.
All right. Hello. All right. Here I'm going to share this. You're going to close your eyes. We're to go 10 seconds and then we're going to close it down. All right. Ready? are close your eyes. Here it is. All right. Ready? It's going to kick in. If you don't know this, I'm going to fucking my I'm I'm shocked. Well, three, two, one.
Ice Bear (1:08:07)
All right, I'm closing my eyes. They're closed. I'm feeling the mic with my mustache.
Okay. Okay.
OK, wait, wait, wait, that does sound familiar. Is it Final Fantasy?
Grizz (1:08:41)
I mean, there's Final Fantasy characters in it.
Ice Bear (1:08:44)
shit. This Kingdom Hearts. Okay, okay. I played it briefly. I never played it all the way through.
Grizz (1:08:47)
Yes, it's first Kingdom Hearts.
It's such a good game. See, the thing is when I first came to Martz, I was like, fucking Disney, what the stoop I was really, that's what I try. So, like goofy and Donald duck would always throw me off of the first game. Right. And was like, I don't want to this stupid thing. And then like, is such a game, such a fucking good game, but Disney and Donald duck would always throw me out of it. But then like,
Ice Bear (1:09:02)
It so it wasn't that that wasn't why that.
Grizz (1:09:23)
overarching story and stuff and bringing it back in and like it's such a it's a fucking masterpiece game especially the first one for the first time
Ice Bear (1:09:30)
So
the reason I'm unaware of this is I was that PlayStation two or three? Okay, I didn't have one. I had an N64. So like I had friends that had one. So I'm I am aware of it. But yeah, I never I never had a PS2.
Grizz (1:09:40)
that's fair, okay.
Yeah, it's a absolutely phenomenal game. And it is great. It deserves all the fucking hype it gets as hype as it is. There's all of it.
Ice Bear (1:09:55)
The man.
I almost want to go back.
Mmm.
Grizz (1:10:08)
Cause there's so much about it that it's like cringe where I'm like, this. a Disney really. like a little mermaid stage. get so much of it where I'm like, I don't like any of it. And then like the weapons of key.
Ice Bear (1:10:22)
You.
Grizz (1:10:22)
But the,
the thing is that everything about it supersedes that. And it makes it all of it's where it's very palatable. And you're like, this is fucking amazing. Like that's how good it is.
Ice Bear (1:10:34)
you do you do you want to hear some true video game cringe right you're not you're not going to think it's cringe once I explain it but before I explain it you might think it's so there's a game came out a few a few years ago part of a franchise part of a wildly popular franchise this game happened to feature a little musical diddly by none other than Ed Sheeran
This this is Pokemon.
Grizz (1:11:05)
Yes, he has got a lot of edge
here and kicked out like a bucket edge here.
Ice Bear (1:11:12)
Okay.
So here's the thing in that game. Guys, if you haven't played it, sorry, fuck off. It's years later, I'm going to spoil the end of it. Throughout the course of this game, the one dude has this this dog character. And you're trying to heal it. And, and so like, by the end of the game, you have you've successfully collected enough things to to heal pupper, pupper, you know,
Grizz (1:11:26)
I don't know.
Ice Bear (1:11:40)
all of this game I'm playing as Denali was dealing with his cancer thing. So I don't know would that
Grizz (1:11:47)
What's this dog's name is
is is is Gravard right is it Gravard agree agree of art.
Ice Bear (1:11:51)
it. No, he No, it was
the it was the thing that Fido evolves into. It's like a master boss. Mastiff Mastiff boss.
Grizz (1:11:59)
⁓
I wasn't having that was the ghost dog, you know, the big ghost dog. Yeah. yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:12:03)
No, he's he's not the ghost dog. He's the Mastiff one. But anyway, the point the point is puppy
Ed Sheeran song. And like as I'm playing this game for the months, like Denali's like slowly like fading from cancer. So when that song came on and I was so worried about this fucking Pokemon, I'm listening to this fucking Ed Sheeran song play and I don't I'm just like balls fucking like 10 15 minutes.
and Denali's just looking at me like what the fuck are you doing? What are you on about? I'm like, I'm sorry. I love you my love. More spicy boy.
Grizz (1:12:47)
So far it's it's valid though because even like when when even like me
going to them like, damn, got like crack and respect. I, again, I think of like my, my cat band around my 20 year old cat, the one that died. I really a huge portion of my life. So like, whenever it happens, I got a pet thing. I just think I just go back to him, right? Cause I was kind of like my main thing. even like when he's like, cause when he first pops in the game, you're like, this guy. Well, then you see why you're like, damn, I would do the same thing. I would do the same. I would do, I would do the same. I would do the same.
Ice Bear (1:13:20)
Yeah, I gotta find these sandwiches now. I gotta find all these sandwiches.
Grizz (1:13:26)
Sandwiches for him. Fuck, I would do that. And then some war crimes like.
Ice Bear (1:13:29)
Ha ha.
Grizz (1:13:35)
That's a game. This is fantastic game.
Ice Bear (1:13:37)
It was really good game. Like for all the people that shit on it, like it tried to do something different. The open world was fun and the story was good. A lot of people, a lot of people, a lot of people shit on it.
Grizz (1:13:44)
Okay, who, who shit on it that like I'm mad and Danny really, I know people showed in the beginning
because the graphics are kind of like, you know what I mean? That was okay, fine understandable. But but like
Ice Bear (1:13:56)
That's not why I play these games.
I play these games for nostalgia and chess.
Grizz (1:14:02)
I
think that Scarlet of I was like one of the best Pokemon games that came out like in fucking a long time. Like I think the only one, the story that gets close, even though it's not my favorite, I think it was a black and white with only an, I think that one's up there too.
Ice Bear (1:14:12)
I agree.
And it's sun and moon.
Like, the guy N. Sorry. Yeah, I'm thinking of type null.
Grizz (1:14:31)
The green haired PETA. Yeah, yeah. The
PETA character. yeah, like with him and then as he gets us, right? Like, yes. Or no, is it?
Ice Bear (1:14:39)
Yeah.
XY.
Grizz (1:14:46)
No, it's not XY. Fuck, is it black? It's not black one either. Is it diamond or pearl?
I think it's time for her because gets his fucking guarantee. All right. It has to be done for Pokemon.
Ice Bear (1:14:57)
and bear with me
bear with me ⁓ black and white and black and white too
Grizz (1:15:06)
Oh, okay. It is black and Okay.
Okay. So yeah, so yeah. Yeah. But so and I think black and white with and I think is up there. My favorite to this day on the fuck people say Joe does my favorite fucking gold silver crystal is my absolute favorite game. You can't be getting 16 badges. I don't care what you say. You go through the first one you fight red. And then after that you get a fucking ticket to the St. Anne
Ice Bear (1:15:20)
Gold silver.
Yep.
Grizz (1:15:34)
And then the SSN and then you go back to P you go back to Kanto and fight those fucking gym leaders.
Ice Bear (1:15:41)
The other thing about that was, so you felt like you're like, man, I got a full game. And then you're like, I get a second game. Plus, plus the other thing was the legendary dogs in those games, because of the way you had to like track the map and, and back and forth and back and forth.
Grizz (1:15:48)
Exactly, like there's no beating it.
And that was the first time it was ever that it was the first time
that was introduced. then not only that you had to, you had to like the morning and night thing, they got introduced and it was like, what the fuck.
Ice Bear (1:16:09)
⁓ dude. like, do you remember like the satisfaction when you evolved like a Sylveon or an Espeon?
Grizz (1:16:17)
yeah, was being an umbrella. Yeah, that was a crazy cause the whole yeah. Yeah. Cause because like the friendship thing got introduced then too. And it was like, it was fucking insane.
Ice Bear (1:16:19)
⁓ sorry, sorry. I'm brown. ⁓
⁓ man.
So that was that was the year that like, I got a what was it silver for for Christmas, and I got a worm light for my Game Boy. And and my my stocking was like a 48 pack of batteries. And man, I bet by the time we went back from Christmas break, I was done with like half of them, because that's all I did. And it was so fun. It was so much fun.
Grizz (1:16:39)
And it should drain the shit out of your battery so fast.
So good. remember, so I had the,
had the warm light for a second. That one's like, and then I had, there was one where you're like, you attached it to the top of it. Right. And it went, he has to the top of it. would clip on the top and they would have a thing to go into the photo thing. And so it was like, so you flip up the cover and the light would face, Oh dude, I like that. And then, uh, yeah, I, I can't remember being a kid and.
Ice Bear (1:17:02)
Yeah.
I remember that one too. That was awesome too. Yup. Yup. Dude.
Grizz (1:17:21)
We're supposed to be like bedtime had to be a sleep and parents. would like turn on my closet light and then crack the door slightly just to thin ray of light. And I'd have like my Gameboy color in there. going to like advance. And they're trying to like play when I got a Gameboy SP that I was like, Holy I remember being under my fucking blanket, like playing in like a closet before my parents came in. That was fucking
Ice Bear (1:17:26)
Yep.
Yep.
Dude, the backlit was a game changer. Holy shit.
Yep.
Yep.
Grizz (1:17:50)
Insane.
Ice Bear (1:17:51)
Yeah, that was the SP was so good. The clamshell everything about it was satisfying.
Grizz (1:17:57)
And the, okay. Yeah. Clam shell was great. I had her, had like that sparkly red one. But so like is the clam is clam shell. It was super fucking compact, but the screen was still huge. Like the screen was bigger than all the other ones, but it was still compact as hell. Like it was a fucking amazing handheld console.
Ice Bear (1:18:03)
Yeah.
Yeah, that's great. But the backlight
was such a game changer.
Grizz (1:18:17)
absolutely insane. Like, cause when the Game Advance came out the backlight, was like, wow, this is fucking cool. And again, it was cool. then when the SP came out and it was like way more compact than the fucking Advance was. And the fact that you had, like, was phenomenal. I remember I traded my special edition, like the silver, the chrome silver Advance for a SP. And because I, cause I have a friend had got like, he had like two of them and he had the two, he had two red SP's.
Ice Bear (1:18:22)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Yeah. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (1:18:46)
And so
I gave a trade at him my silver by silver fucking Gameboy Advance for that SP. I was like, this is just fucking amazing.
Ice Bear (1:18:59)
Good times. Good times.
you
Grizz (1:19:06)
So good, so good.
I think I I don't think you can go anywhere else from there, right?
Ice Bear (1:19:10)
I don't think you can top that.
Nope, this is no place but down. Just bathe in the nostalgia.
Grizz (1:19:17)
No place for Dan. So you know what? We're running on a high with Supernova.
I'm giving you an A minus. You are a fantastic beer. Beautiful vortex. You make me re-realize again that I'm not a fan of West Coast IPAs, but you were a great West Coast IPA. And I'm very happy that I had you. And I'm even more happy that I this 9 % Supernova.
And with that.
Ice Bear (1:19:52)
Tickle, tickle.
Grizz (1:19:54)
All right, all right, all right.